@OpenComputeDesign Well, the maturity and confidence of others is important to reasonably interact. If they are not up to it, better to steer clear sometimes. But that's not "never", just with some standards.

@admitsWrongIfProven I wanna be a father, though, so there would, by definition, be a lack of maturity.

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there's a whole logic to when people don't notice when harm is being done.

the foundational texts of the field, freud, jung, and the like, are too "grasping in the dark" to be useful this far from the victorian age--but in psychology books from between the 1930s-1960s one can find operational info for recognizing and avoiding that type of scenario.

(post-60s stuff takes mass neurosis as a given and is less useful for giving a fuck)

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it impresses me that you explicitly strive to have consistent moral standards in how you relate to others. i think that's an eminently realistic attitude, even if it exposes how faulty the ethics of daily life can be.

note that it's widely accepted how, despite best efforts, it's not possible for anyone to be perfect. and that being perfect doesn't actually solve any problems; pursuit of perfection otoh enables to ignore them.

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