people have no idea what violence is. the reason who structural violence is misunderstood is not that its structural nature flees the people's minds, like academics think. people are more than well versed in many types of structural relations. they have no odea what violence is. they only have secondary impressions and superstitious correlations. a black eye is not violence. But words are. city planning, architecture, uniforms, fresh looking vegetables all are violence. a black eye just refers to a punch or an impact. it can be infinite number of things, a play, an accident, a reciprocal struggle. Violence is you lacking control over your own life and body so that you would never be expected to have given yourself a black eye, because you are a domesticated creature in captivity. you are supposed, have to, want pleasure and shun pain. in other words, you have to be normal. they know how to control that, and this is violence. a black eye is just a black eye.
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@livinghell Very true, but i wonder if that first part is a bit us-centric? Or is the idea that words are violence, in the sense of putting down people that suffer systemic or physical violence more of a general fascist strategy?
Actual question here.
@livinghell You can say it is US or that it is fascist?
Ok, i see the problem here. Is it specific to the US or is it generally fascist is what i am asking.
@admitsWrongIfProven it is fascist. i wasn't thinking about US at all. to give an example, calling someone a pervert in my country would, or christian, would be common forms of violence
@livinghell I don't follow.
The general criteria if something is violence is if that thing will do harm.
So if the person is persecuted is relevant, but since i do not know the context i cannot parse this.
General, country/culture agnostic interpretation would be:
If violence is generally accepted towards a group, words are violence since they are the lynchpin to start physical violence or at least induce the state of "i will be attacked", for good reason, in the victim.
Now fascism does this by selecting an outgroup and encouraging violence against that group. Like jews in nazi germany, or muslims in more modern settings.
The US, as far as i understand, is (apart from being a land owner centric country) especially racist against black people, from africa originally and against their will. The ones they abducted, they hate for reminding them of their never cleaned up past. Also, they have american exceptionalism, which is general fascism, so there is a race agnostic fascist component, but it is focussed on criticism - does not apply if someone is uninvolved.
Ok, let me try again (exhausted because of myself, not you):
Is the violence you talk about against far-back african people or people that criticize the US?
@livinghell Wait, i did not read it right. You did already answer and i wrote a lot of stuff needlessly.
*exasperated because of myself*
@admitsWrongIfProven hehehe it's fine.
@admitsWrongIfProven From my corner of the world i can surely say that it is. Fascists are a minority everywhere. they cant body slam everyone.