@livinghell You are overcomplicating this.
A gaggle of states kills people. This is ok, because states are actually people pursuing profit.
So they like it, as it helps them, no matter how many die.

@admitsWrongIfProven What i am talking about is the anti-colonialist discourse, which don't actually offer much to the oppressed people actually getting murdered. Also, there are those who are well intentioned but do not want to see full extent of the colonial project and their complicity with it. Both sides focus on their own political projects while there are people getting murdered.

@livinghell Colonialists are killing people, that much is clear. But why would one consider if the people are arab or anything else?

There are no "both" sides, only murderers and victims.

What is wrong with you? They are murderers and there is no other side. They. Kill.

Self defense.

@admitsWrongIfProven Anti-colonialist discourse does not take place in Palestine. It takes place here and Anglophone and Francophone world. And this discourse does consider the sociology of the geography. Generally in a racist manner. It does not propose a positive program for Palestinian freedom. It proposes a negative freedom for Palestinian national political body. As you say, "self defence". But this means nothing. As long as all power structures are in place, you know, this isn't Palestinian equivalent of Holocaust. This is equivalent of Russian pogroms. Even if Genocide stops now and some assimilation may take place, actual complete genocide will still to come. Jewish people had some civil rights in Weimar Germany. It won't matter. Amount of freedom white people, good white people our allies, afford realistically for Arabs to have, will still not matter.

@livinghell What i am saying is stop adhering to labels dished out by anti-social people. They want humaity to be destroyed, i got that.
Kill the nazis is the word. Ignore their lies. There is no "anglo", as we are all just human. Every last jewish or arab person can tell you that. They protest a lot, all we need to do is act accordingly.
Now, where exactly do the oppressors live, and could we please go there as one?

@admitsWrongIfProven Lol, i meant english speaking. We are all one race, sure. But racism is inherent to the world in which we are raised. So it has disastrous effects even when we don't realise it. People hide it behind the language of the possible, instead of saying that we can't afford to be that much "utopian" for the Arabs as they are a 'backward people'. Our white friends are not very imaginative.

@livinghell The thing that remains is that fascists need to be stopped, by any means, right?