This is such a bleak fucking planet
@chestycougth Yeah, that's the one
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@OpenComputeDesign @chestycougth If we could put the humans out of frame always it might be pretty ok?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
Even without humans I'm really not a fan of this planet tbh
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven why so? Personally I think it has a lot of cool stuff going on even if you ignore the biology
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
Without humans, all other life still sucks. And without life, it's just another big rock in a field of big rocks
@OpenComputeDesign
Is the life on this specific planet really the issue?
Might there be a confounding issue?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth The problem really, is that the universe is just really cruel and uncaring.
@OpenComputeDesign
It is. But what makes this unbearable is humans, how they act, not the universe, right?
The universe is our playground, and we collectively chose to make it a place of torture.
Not any one person, but the choices, influenced by previous choices... might i have done anything useful if my ancestors had not be conditioned to be useless or harmful?
Might you have? What is keeping you, the past or the present?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
I mean, because I am a human, I would say humans are probably the worst things in the universe. But even if I was the only human in existence, I would still deeply dislike the universe
@OpenComputeDesign
But why? I'm all for some nice, thorough disdain, but what is the issue?
I presented some disdain of mine, but what is yours?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
I guess my main problem with the universe is, it has no justice
@OpenComputeDesign @admitsWrongIfProven It has laws, i.e. physical laws, but justice is a human concept. A concept created to help manage law and order among humans. Justice is not a natural law. Pain exists as something universal to probably all conscious life, but happiness has the same privilege.
There will always be things that to a humans conception of things are 'unjust', but that's just not understanding that 'justice' is not a natural law as mentioned above
@chestycougth @admitsWrongIfProven
Yes, the universe does not care how much things suffer. Fairness is not only not a universal law, it's not even possible.
I absolutely do not want to live in a universe that isn't fair
@OpenComputeDesign
Well, i can agree on the not wanting to, i was not asked if i wanted to either.
It seems to me you are discounting how much things can change depending on small circumstances. People being nice versus people sticking needles in you constantly would make a difference, right?
That the universe does not enforce fairness or justice is one thing, but what are the people around you doing?
@OpenComputeDesign
You do understand that while you can change some parts about who you are, a lot is coming from your past, and that you are not solely responsible for who you are?
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
It doesn't really matter to me if I'm responsible for being this way or not. I _am_ this way, and that is unacceptable to me
@OpenComputeDesign Dude, if you don't factor in outside influence, you're a puppet.
I'm all for being rational, but do it right, ffs.
Justice is not suffering for someone else. Justice is placing blame where it needs to be. Otherwise, you are just a support for the villain.
I may have been hurt in such a way as to make me dangerous, I'm not sure. But I _am_ dangerous now
@OpenComputeDesign And you accept the responsibility. Sounds good?
What about this: I'm sorry to hear you have to do so much to just not fuck up, that's an unfair burden to place on you. But i'm proud of you for bearing it.
@admitsWrongIfProven @chestycougth
The people around me are actually very supportive right now, unfortunately for them. If they were not, I would probably be dead already.
The problem really is me. I do not like the person I am.