Hexnut @ambihelical@qoto.org

@AmenZwa I feel ya....

@BigEatie Tarmarians their arms open wide

@dekkzz76@emacs.ch @hyperreal Does it help scrolling? I thought it keeps the frame from sizing to character height and width, which I guess could help tangentially. And it's not new for 29.1, but has been around longer.

Maybe you mean (pixel-scroll-precision-mode t) ? That does improve scrolling if you have a good enough mouse.

@amszmidt @davidbraze @joonhyeok_ahn

I'd say 50% of my configuration is adding keybindings that are easier for me to remember or type or fixing some annoying default. I guess you are ok with the defaults. Other than that, without the following packages, my emacs experience would be worse:

* which-key
* ws-butler
* magit
* git-timemachine
* eglot (now builtin, but the gnu package is more up to date)
* vertico, orderless, consult, emback, corfu and some related packages.
* avy
* evil (I used vi[m] for decades, my fingers won't learn any different), and related packages
* helpful
* project (built-in but gnu version is more up to date)
* math-preview (used with adoc-mode, etc to show latex math rendered)
* packages for text formats that are not built-in or the built-in are not great for some reason:
- toml-mode
- plantuml-mode
- js2-mode
- markdown-mode
- sphinx-mode
- adoc-mode
- rustic and rust-mode
- python-mode
- cmake-mode
- ruby-mode
- protobuf-mode
- modern-cpp-font-lock
- org (built-in but gnu version is more up to date)

I also have some small elisp functions for some things. Those are in my config. I wouldn't want to go without some of those, but they are very idiosyncratic.

@amszmidt @davidbraze @joonhyeok_ahn I think you misunderstand. We use the cool built in stuff. It’s just the defaults are often grating and there are great packages on melpa. I can’t imagine getting by without some of them.

@amszmidt @davidbraze @joonhyeok_ahn

Wow Users like you are like Bigfoot to me. Technically possible but still extremely unlikely.

@freemo @AncientGood How can you claim causation when it does not seem to be anything more than correlation? There was a lot else going on during those gun bans, after all. You may be right, but it's not convincing.

@freemo Although the emancipation proclamation didn't end slavery in the north, the 13th amendment was proposed shortly thereafter and ratified in 1865. I am not much of a historian, but I suspect that Lincoln did not have the authority to end slavery universally without that amendment. In any case Lincoln was a major force behind getting it ratified (it failed once).

On racism and bigotry. Although there is overlap, I think that as a concept bigotry is a broader concept than racism. A racist is always a bigot, but not every bigot is a racist. Despite the fact that people (in your example) are considering a group white trash rednecks, and this sounds racist since there is the word "white" in there, it seems more like bigotry to me. I guess if you allow the concept of racism to include prejudice against any "other" group based on any thing whatsoever, then every such person is a racist. I don't happen to agree. The result can be the same, but I don't think the prejudice comes from the same place, and racism's consequences are generally more persistent.

I understand the idea of southerners being dismissed, I have personal stories in my own southern family about such prejudice, in particular with poor farmer kids being dismissed by the townies as stupid and ignorant. I still don't consider it racism. They weren't prejudiced against because of their whiteness or some other physical characteristic beyond their control, but because they looked and acted like poor farmer kids. When he joined the military, the uniform and training erased all differences in background, and that effect lasted after the service. The blacks of the same era did not get the same benefit, after their military service they were still considered "other" because of their skin color.

@freemo Sikh culture, religion and philosophy has many admirable attributes.

@freemo I won't argue about the southern pride thing, I don't know, but that seems to have a ring of truth in it. but is this statement reasonable?:

"No surprise, as usual the racists are the ones trying to pretend they are the heros vilifying the good ones."

Ignoring the use of the word racist for a second, I would argue that you are running up against the difference in education backgrounds between the north and south. When I first moved to the south, I was shocked to hear that most considered the civil war to be about states rights. I had not heard that before despite my father being from the deep south. I still think it's a bit of a cop out, since they wanted the right to continue a vile tradition, but that is the education that southerners receive, so I have to accept that background.

On the word racist, this doesn't seem accurate, this is more of a bigotry thing. To be clear, northern bigotry against southern battle flag culture. To me racism and bigotry are the same kind of human ignorance, but usually not the same sort of vile associations, so more precision might not cause as many fits.

@dannyman They changed the cover for the tenth anniversary edition, the musk-head version is even more cringe compared to the original.

@carnage4life Exactly how I imagined it tbh

@pwinn .. if you did list them out .. oops

@pwinn Curious, what kind of things are you seeing that you don't like? If you did, maybe someone can suggest another instance that you would like better if such an instance exists.

@ClickHouseCI @xgqt@emacs.ch Thanks, I wasn't aware of these issues. I guess I'm fortunate not to have any of them, as I work in an embedded environment (5-10 small repos).

I know it can work with a local git server, that's how we use it, but technically that's still "internet". You can also use a file path source, I use that sometimes for developing related repos, but I'm not sure how useful it would be in general, as there is no version control from the build system, and repeatability becomes a problem. Not sure I understand your use case though.

@ClickHouseCI @xgqt@emacs.ch

It's really worth it if you are stuck with CMake, it's certainly not a reason to use CMake. My main point wasn't to sell CMake but to say that having the build system control this stuff is better than git submodules.