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trustroots.org is an open source hosting exchange website (like couchsurfing) born in the hitchwiki.org community, and is an awesome one. The android app was in the play store only, but today platschi put the android app in a repo:

platschi.net/f-droid-repositor

nice job!

@arteteco
ActivityPub for couch/accommodation sharing when?

@mayel
I don't know, what advantages would you see in that? Like, different policies by instance, or..?

@arteteco

That's one of many. Decentralised moderation. Different levels of privacy (including cross-instance private communities, leveraging AP's group actor). Decentralised innovation in terms of UX and new functionality. Etc.

@mayel
I am not sure that those ups would actually balance the downs like how it's easier to manage moderation, implement new functions and develop the software in a centralized service. Trustroots doesn't have all that critical mass right now and everybody feels to me quite attached to the project, wanting to share the space together that is.

It could be interesting though, I'm not a programmer

@arteteco

It "doesn't have critical mass" is actually the main reason I think that any platform that benefits from network effects should be federated. So we can leave all the centralisers and capitalists to compete against each other, while the rest of us can switch to decentralised cooperation once and for all!

@mayel
I agree! "Critical Mass" means what, the market share momentum needed to dominate and destroy/absorb competition? It doesn't seem congruent with federation's purpose, let alone necessary.
@arteteco

@erosdiscordia
What, why would you think that? What I meant is that, it not having that many users, I see no real urge to decentralize the software.
@mayel

@arteteco

What I mean is that being centralized is actually makes it more challenging to have enough users. Better being part of a network like the fediverse.

@erosdiscordia

@arteteco
Hey, I'm sorry, I wasn't attacking the project you originally shared (which sounds cool). I was more generally criticizing the pressures that get put on app makers, that market dominance or buyout are the golden directions to aim.

Of course an app needs a certain critical mass of users before it can really federate. But what do you think would be a good size? And how to resist pressures to default to being a silo? Just some thoughts.
@mayel

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@mayel
What do you mean? TR is not really in competition, not market-wise at least, being not for profit, donation based and open source, is just a community of travellers. It's not like federating is perfect for any use case, not saying this won't work, but it seems to me that it would require some more deep and technical consideration first.

Anyway, just start your project, no one is stopping anybody

@arteteco

Sorry if my posts seem confrontational to you. I'm not critising Trustroots, just arguing for the benefits of interoperability and decentralisation, which can benefit users in different and wonderful ways. (Being free, open source, non-profit, etc is awesome, but can still carry the challenges of centralized governance, sustainability, and "marketing").

@mayel
No worries, I see your point of view and I don't disagree, after all we are on the fediverse, we both must like decentralization :)
I'm not that sure whether a federated software for hospitality exchange would work better at the moment, but I'd love to find out alright. If someone would start working on something like that I'll back him/her up, sure thing.

@arteteco
As a quick sidebar, does anyone know if there are any platform cooperative frameworks for the fediverse like the software developed by #Sharetribe? I've been thinking it would be cool to have a co-op for #Etsy type stuff, and maybe this would be a good way to implement it. #OpenBazaar seems a little too crypto-heavy unless it's changed a lot since last time I looked at it.
@mayel #cooperative #coop #plarformcooperative #crypto

@solarpunkgnome
Afaik this is more or less what the people at commonspub are doing, a general purpose AP server which should make it easy to implement anything on top ( commonspub.org/ )

@mayel is one of the devs so could tell us more, right?
This, of course, if I got your question right in the first place :D

@arteteco
Not sure if that's exactly what I'm looking for, but it's along the right direction. I'll have to look into it further to know for sure. Thanks!
@mayel

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We are a free speech, no censorship zone. Feel free to talk about whatever you want, say whatever you want, as long as it is legal you wont ever get banned from the server. With that said we do have a few rules: No spam, and no using multiple accounts to circumvent personal bans.

This server isnt a typical mastodon server either. I have personally modified the code on this server to give it several unique features you wont find on other servers.

If you are new to Mastodon here is some useful info.

First off, if your coming from Twitter and you'd prefer an interface that looks exactly like twitter, then just go here and login with your Qoto credential: https://halcyon.qoto.org/ No need to create an account there, your account on this server will work just fine. Just enter your username in the following format @[username]@qoto.org so for me it would be @freemo But personally I think our default skin here is way better.

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