@pganssle that sounds like you are given a fair degree of flexibility, providing your output conceptually fits the banner of some product. The contract might get weird but above all you can act autonomously which is great
@pganssle I usually have a BYOD arrangement, I wonder with yours, how much the contract would change? It’s in their interest to have staff living out of work devices. I’ve seen salary staff leave their laptops at work for work life balance. I’ve always found my investment in the job overrides this mentality and I do all kinds of shit on work computers at home as well as a little extra work as a result. So when I start somewhere they have to invent or apply a BYOD policy.
@binsrc As to the original policy I alluded to, IANAL but my understanding is that one of the clauses (and the company owns your output usually if *any* condition is met) is that the company owns your output if you use company resources, meaning anything you need to work at the company to have access to. BYOD muddies the situation but I think it would probably not be sufficient unless you used software the company paid for, did it on company time, etc.
@binsrc Joel Spolsky outlined a compelling case for why these kinds of policies actually make a lot of sense: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/12/09/developers-side-projects/
As much as my CC-0-moving sensibility chafes under these kinds of policies, I'd almost certainly enact similar ones if I started a company (at least one with a traditional relationship with IP).
@pganssle there needs to be a common ground clause somewhere.
@pganssle fair call. My relationship with work is different, I have concurrent “customers”, and those relationships span years. There is no way I could manage anything other than BYOD. NDA’s already cover IP mess, I don’t think it matters what is sitting on my disks really all that much.
I have never worked for a US tech giant though. Nor have I had your specific experience, and my customers are probably little fish in comparison. :)
@binsrc I refuse to use my work devices for everything. If I worked somewhere with a BYOD policy I would just buy a dedicated work laptop.
It is a bit inconvenient but definitely in your interests you have separate devices. Even assuming you aren't worried about a "messy break-up" situation, consider that in the highly likely event of your company being in a lawsuit, suddenly your entire laptop may be subject to discovery.