got to love the hypocrisy of modern leftist people. dividing people into groups where some have more worth than others (everything not male and white) and some are forbidden doing things.

it's racism/fascism sprinkled with pink glitter.

i could point out people here but that is bad style. their ability of maintaining the self image that they are _good people_ however is astounding. then, the nazis where perceiving themselves as good people too.

@bonifartius I don't know why some people find it healthy or useful to parse entire demographics as a singular person for the purposes of assigning blame and responsibility (e.g. all men being responsible for historical and institutional patriarchy.)

It makes no fucking sense at all. It doesn't allow for individual differences in worldview, personality, priorities, intelligence, opportunity, etc. It doesn't allow for the fact that people can and do change their minds all the time, jumping one ship for another or striking out on their own to codify a new philosophy.

But honestly, I'm at the point where I just let them get on with it, lol. I once saw a top virtue signalling ancom claim that Carl Jung's work was useless based on his ethnic and cultural background, and him being a "universalist" (a gross misunderstanding of his archetypes and collective unconscious models.)

It's actively funny. Again, let's bring up the Nazis: to them, psychology was a "Jew science," and even the work of Jung (a non-Jew) was "tainted" by the hand of Freud (a Jew) to them.

Learning to separate my hatred of Yaldabaoth/Abrahamic religion from my feelings about the specific people who have, at times, followed that dark path (usually for reasons of having been born into a culture that did so) unlocked a lot of knowledge. If I was still put off by examining the "tainted" I never would have discovered some incredibly useful things.

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> I don't know why some people find it healthy or useful to parse entire demographics as a singular person for the purposes of assigning blame and responsibility (e.g. all men being responsible for historical and institutional patriarchy.)

my take is that it's an easy way to get into an in-group.

> It makes no fucking sense at all. It doesn't allow for individual differences in worldview, personality, priorities, intelligence, opportunity, etc. It doesn't allow for the fact that people can and do change their minds all the time, jumping one ship for another or striking out on their own to codify a new philosophy.

logically it doesn't make sense, but from the social/emotional point it's easy social credit as long as it is accepted by the majority. maybe that's what we get by telling whole generations (myself included, i guess it has taken it's toll on my brain too..) that they are special and then fucking the brain some more with advertising a life they can never have. previously we've had the church in this role, only with different things being bad or good.

> But honestly, I'm at the point where I just let them get on with it, lol. I once saw a top virtue signalling ancom claim that Carl Jung's work was useless based on his ethnic and cultural background, and him being a "universalist" (a gross misunderstanding of his archetypes and collective unconscious models.)

ignoring is maybe the wisest thing to do. on the other hand i feel bad seeing the world going down the shitter and the only thing people see and do is quickfixes and throwing shit at each other. hey, we live in a time where everyone right from the extreme left is a evil nazi enabler and everyone left from the extreme right is stalin. what could go wrong! except that the ideals of both sides would get a majority of their proponents shot, while oligarchs gain more and more power.

> It's actively funny. Again, let's bring up the Nazis: to them, psychology was a "Jew science," and even the work of Jung (a non-Jew) was "tainted" by the hand of Freud (a Jew) to them.

people screaming "nazi" aren't that well informed in general, otherwise they wouldn't resort to time-proven tactics which reliably fail to prevent people from going even more in that direction. things like canceling & deplatforming don't work, they just create more reason to be this way.

> Learning to separate my hatred of Yaldabaoth/Abrahamic religion from my feelings about the specific people who have, at times, followed that dark path (usually for reasons of having been born into a culture that did so) unlocked a lot of knowledge. If I was still put off by examining the "tainted" I never would have discovered some incredibly useful things.

at least those things have a cultural significance in the western world, so knowing about them can't hurt. at least for comedic value, things like ophanim etc. ;) work by others who merely were living at times or places where those religions ruled isn't necessarily "bad" (but might well be, as with everything). i'd say that e.g. while masonry advanced by building churches, it's nonetheless rather astounding what they were capable of in those gone days.

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