+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
you know, i'd really like to believe the "russia evil - west good" memery of our media. would be much more comfortable not having to question the narrative all the time (it at least happens automatically as inner monologue).
the problem is the west has fucked up so many times by doing evil things and lying about it that i consider every version 100% bullshit by now.
allende? killed by us goons for actually building a not shitty socialist country.
weapons of mass destruction in irak? well, sorry, we must have shelled that region back to stone age for nothing!
german NSU? whoops sorry, agencies were involved all the time.
gladio? don't worry about the right wing sleeper cells all over europe!
literally goes on forever. i might as well believe the other sides version and certainly would be not farther from the truth than with believing western media.
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bit of rambling answer:
ukraine, certainly it's people, is the victim here.
i don't think that the narrative we get in the west is the truth though. azov battalion is just ignored, because it would mean that putin is at least partially right about denazification.
essentially the west fucked up big times and now hasn't got the balls to admit it.
we build north stream pipelines despite the gas imports to middle and western europe were a kind of life insurance for ukraine. we could just have not done that. gas would be a bit more expensive.
parallel to that we always provoked russia by adding more nato members (essentially cuban missile crisis in reverse), sanctions, accusations of meddling in votes, etc. while the west happily led wars for 20 years in the middle east. because "war on terror".
i think it's mistaken to think that "the west" as construct is in any way more noble in the big picture. we just fuck our own people over in other ways. our wars are in a more comfortable distance and are rainbow colored.
it's not that the war in ukraine is right in any sense, it's that the west is corrupt and evil as well. the west never had any interest in ukraine being a stable democracy. it has interest in getting cheap gas from russia. it's all lies and bullshit and i can't really stand that shit anymore.
@bonifartius and we have no idea what is happening on the ground. The DoD could make satellite surveillance lifestreaming on youtube but somehow we have to believe imgur, live maps by a dude in basement 1000 miles away, telegram and whatsapp and gasp discord!
@bonifartius this is what I think, too.
They're all lyers. Profiting on war.