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That some things are not true, does not mean that everything is true and that no values exist.
Regardless of your opinions of the war in ukraine, by now I think it is obvious to most, that Putin is a killer and started the war against another sovereign country.
Or you do not agree perhaps?
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@h4890 that's not the point though. normal people are labeled nazis while real nazi military battalions are regarded as heroic by the same people. politics lost any credibility they still had. we have as much propaganda, only for other reasons. we also started senseless wars. everything is bullshit, everywhere.
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@bonifartius @phagusX past, we are talking about the current russian (or rather Putins) war on ukraine.
Also, yes, there are western propaganda outlets, but freedom of press is way higher and censorship way lower in the west. If you are intelletcually honest it is very easy for you to get closer to the truth in the west compared with china or russia where censorship is heavy and you will be imprisoned for questioning the current status quo.
I'll just add for your sake, that (...)
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@bonifartius @phagusX my views are based on growing up in sweden, and I have lived in 6 countries, so I had ample opportunity to compare.
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Ah, but this is the fallacy of "whataboutism". Just because someone did something wrong in the past, does not mean that anyone has the right to do this without being criticized in the future.
Yes, west has done horrible things, but that is in the past and we learned from our mistakes.
What russia is doing is still wrong, and they should pay compensation and withdraw. It does not matter one bit what europe or ukraine or any other country did in the (...)