+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
the tagless replies of soapbox are pretty irritating.
@Hyolobrika i think soapbox falls for the same fallacy desktop linux does: trying to make it "simple" to use for "common" people - which is code for users who already got their brain destroyed by twitter or in the case of desktop linux by using android or ios.
tending to those "new" people isn't helping: either one wants the real deal and puts in the work to learn the ropes of federated services or a new os or they are just larping "being different".
these attempts to fix non-broken stuff are imho always of questionable use but constantly succeed in making life worse for long time users.
whatever fe you're using should be displaying the untagged mentions for you. if it isn't then that's a problem with your fe. activitypub recipients have nothing to do with the message body
@roboneko
unilaterally changing the way stuff is done is bad, even if it might be more correct.
which is exactly what the poettering crowd is doing all the time for linux, only that the lennart ideas are always technically bad, not only in how they are pushed :>
@Hyolobrika
@roboneko
at some point the convention becomes the standard. to stay with mail, ">" is the standard quotation marker. you are free to use something different but it will break clients. i'd at least be able to figure out what it quoted visually, i can't do that when tags are missing here.
i agree that it is the better technical solution to use the "headers", but if it breaks stuff hard for a minimal improvement it's just entitled bullshit.
@Hyolobrika
this seems a bit different to me though. you could already address people without tagging them by just using curl. so the fact that FEs weren't displaying that metadata seems like a clear bug to me in that case
this wasn't so much adding a breaking change as it was switching the default to something that was bugged in the vast majority of FEs
