@thatguyoverthere Spanish homegrown tomatoes. The guy mixes even beach sand in the soil and feeds the soil making it a supersoil. It tastes meaty very concentrated tomato difficult to explain the taste but very pulpy meaty. We buy 8kg a time from this friend.
@diceynes mine are growing in straw enriched with chicken poop and composted in place now for a second year. I'm really liking straw bale planting, but there are things to learn just like any method. I bought a few varieties, but I'm not really sure which ones are actually fruiting.

Those look delicious. I have a small container of similarly colored tomatoes that came with my produce bag from a local farm that I do most of my weekly shopping through. This year mine are nothing fancy. I bought them at the feed shop kind of on impulse because I've come to realize much of my seed is unreliable and I didn't want to miss the boat.
@diceynes yeah I am going to buy some new seed over the winter so that I can start some different stuff next year. I prefer growing from seed over buying them already started, but so much of my seed is unreliable. I am just going to throw it all out and get new (excluding the things I bought this year). I need to improve my storage solution before I pick up anything new though. My current bin is a mess of open seed packs that were once rubber banded into some kind of order, but have since been freed from their chains. There is no real protection against moisture or critters (no critters have found my seed but if they did it would be the end) or really even light if I leave it out. I am probably going to print myself a solution, but this time of year I really don't like having to mess around with the printer (now that I think about it, last week's 4 day rain would have been a good time to work on that).

@thatguyoverthere @diceynes i use an old floppy box for managing the seed packs, ordered by the month they are planted

@bonifartius @diceynes keeping the empty seed packs in a floppy box might be a good way to keep the reference information that I don't think will fit neatly on the bottles.
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@thatguyoverthere @diceynes if you are in europe: bingenheimer from germany is where i usually order and the seeds always worked for me, i heard good things from kokopelli in france too!

@bonifartius @diceynes I am not. I order seeds from either johnnys or baker's creek usually. Johnny's has good prices on ground covers and stuff like that, but I really like the selection of seeds over at baker's creek. They have a lot of really interesting varieties (mostly heirloom). I'd like to start trying to recover seed from current_year for next_year from heirlooms too. I have let certain heirlooms go to seed and just left the seed in the soil, but some of them probably can't survive the winter and I'd like to have seed to choose from. I also think heirloom varieties are supposed to do better after you start planting them from seed grown in the local environment. My amaranth usually does quite well with huge grain heads by the end of the year if that's any testament (one of the several heirloom plants I've seen popping up every year since I started gardening.
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