@bonifartius back in times people worked for civilization and scientifical achievements.
and now when some speaking head tells me "we developed a new bla-bla-bla for you" I don't trust 'em a shit, because this is far from any achievements, this is plain coprorate greed amd a try to impose more dependences on their BS.

@iron_bug yeah, i think i haven't seen new stuff in a decade where i would say it's really an improvement.

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