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"US approves $23bn sale of F-16 war planes to Turkey"
"The sale follows Turkey’s decision to ratify Sweden’s NATO membership"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/27/us-approves-23bn-sale-of-f-16-war-planes-to-turkey
"Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan initially objected to Sweden’s Nato bid over Stockholm’s perceived acceptance of Kurdish groups that Ankara views as “terrorist” organisations. Sweden responded by tightening its anti-terrorism legislation and taking other security steps demanded by Erdogan."
This is all deeply flawed.
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In my opinion this is deeply messed up. #NATO clearly has a dysfunctional way of making decisions.
Is Turkey a reasonably democratic country? No.
Should Sweden be adapting Swedish laws based on the wishes of Erdogan? No.
Should Sweden be labeling certain groups as "terrorists" because Erdogan wants that? No.
All this is wrong.
Question for those who still think it's a good idea for Sweden to join NATO: will you at least admit at the whole process around it is deeply flawed?
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bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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@eliasr neutral through WW2 and now giving that up for .. what exactly?
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@bonifartius the reason, which apparently a large majority of people in Sweden (not me though) think is a good enough reason, is that we are so very afraid of Russia attacking Sweden the same way they attacked Ukraine.
I find it particularly disturbing that Sweden is prepared to humiliate itself so deeply by bowing to Erdogan's wishes. Erdogan says "jump", Sweden responds "how high?" It's pathetic and as a Swedish citizen I'm ashamed of it. But I don't call the shots around here.
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@eliasr it really is disturbing how well fear based propaganda does work and how well people deal with doublethink: we are going to be invaded (war) so let's talk about nothing but war instead of trying saner paths.
most european governments now only are able to talk and think about their technocratic castles in the sky. if reality catches up with real problems, it hits hard and they are totally disoriented. that's the way erdogan etc. do politics, and it apparently works.
would be great if people would be left alone to call the shots of their own life ;)
