like the moment r/science declared by fiat that you are not to question climate change i wrote the subject off entirely.
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>Basically everybody is full of shit.
And nobody is proposing a tangible solution to the problems.
> you are not allowed to disagree with this specific conclusion
> do not ask why the simulators are wrong and fail to replicate
> the rich people are still buying beachfront property despite selling the idea the world will sink twenty minutes from now (for any definition of now)
now the rich are the most skiddish cowards to ever exist so if they aren't acting like the apocalypse is happening—it isn't.
you can make a neural network that predicts the algorithmic mean of a set of stonks. it will be decently accurate at predicting the average. this is nothing new because people already do that (the delphi effect) but while the robots can trivially predict the average of a large population, they cannot accurately predict individuals within the population.
i am not sure if there is a way to cheat this with some cross sectional analysis. it occurs to me that if i have an individual of interest (say, IBM) and i put them in four different populations, if i could accurately predict each population it seems like i could deduce one or two individuals more accurately just by looking at the cross performance of all their groups, but i haven't tested this and i'm not a big math brain who is smart like that.
i have also read arguments people made like the desperation to make people believe in the conclusion has resulted in using steel hull ship thermometers—which run hotter than the buoys—and then mixing them with the buoy temps which makes it go higher.
i do know that carbon theory has successfully destroyed all meaningful forms of ecological resistance and become a single easily marketed and manageable metric for the System. and one that doesn't really require them to do much of anything. like when was the last time you heard about chemical pollutants in manufacturing? congratulations. never. they just buy carbon offsets and keep pouring acetone in the toilet.
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> i do know that carbon theory has successfully destroyed all meaningful forms of ecological resistance and become a single easily marketed and manageable metric for the System. and one that doesn't really require them to do much of anything. like when was the last time you heard about chemical pollutants in manufacturing? congratulations. never. they just buy carbon offsets and keep pouring acetone in the toilet.
perfectly put. i'm so very much pissed about this. they even do all kinds of damage to "save carbon". my favorite are things like wind turbines in important habitats like peat bogs where they manage to shred birds and disturb the water balance because the fundaments are so deep. it's an absolute clown show.
>electrical wind turbine
And as if it's not enough of a circus, we still have no efficient/ecological way to store the excess energy (aside compressed air).
@mangeurdenuage @icedquinn @sun yes. afaik the wind turbines here are often shut down on purpose to prevent overload.
i assumed that hydrogen could be a solution even when terribly inefficient, but they want to use drinking water for this instead of sea water. i now believe this stuff is done on purpose to generate more problems to extract money in the future.
(my schizotake would be it's just plain malice out of enjoyment of destruction. i have come to believe that demons of some kind are really existing. maybe it's just split up souls or mental problems but the people responsible seem to have a real hatred for trees and nature in general)
@mangeurdenuage yeah, that's an issue as well. i think i saw some process to generate methane from h2 and some carbon, but it was nowhere near working on scale.
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compressed air storage really is interesting indeed. this is one nice article, i think i might have posted it some time ago https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/05/ditch-the-batteries-off-grid-compressed-air-energy-storage/
i think the interesting part about methane (to a lesser degree H2 because storage sucks) is that you can transport it easily. that's why fossil fuels are so handy. put a liquid or gas into a tank and take it where it's required. not much infrastructure required at the destination.
what would help with H2 storage is some way of adsorption where it's not stored as gas but in some kind of "sponge", but those aren't ready as well.
>compressed air storage really is interesting indeed
It would be even better if we had hybrid pneumatic/electric appliances, as in a house the greatest power consumption is (depending on the country and year) that requires mechanical motion are ACs, Fridges, VMCs, Washing machines, and water pumps.
Having them being hybrids avoids the loss of conversion of electricity.
> but those aren't ready as well.
I'm aware.
@mangeurdenuage @icedquinn @sun pneumatic appliances really would be cool to have :)
>i assumed that hydrogen could be a solution
Like I said economically viable/eco friendly container for it. For hydrogen it's quite an issue as you have to store the smallest of atoms with a mesh bigger atoms. It's like wanting to old water with a mosquito net.