@samuraikid i don't even care much for my country, but the progressives burn any chance for prosperous future there is, with or without county.

for example, if climate change was happening and was man made, the way things are done right now destroys any wiggle room to handle the consequences of it. kill the economic base and kill every stable source of electricity. leqves no chance we will have the capacity and resources to handle and prevent floods etc.