Element Starter is a game-changer, offering a free (as in beer) self-hosted version of Element Server Suite.

Does Element not realize how stupid it is to market your software like this?

The term "free as in beer" in a software context, as opposed by "free as in freedom" was popularized by the free software movement.

Do they not realize that "free as in beer" is a bad thing in this context?

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@SuperDicq really thinking about just abandoning matrix. the amount of bullshit (social and technical) they done in the last two years is amazing.

@SuperDicq i'm really pissed about this because things were good and worked well for two or three years.

@ullard@shitposter.world @bonifartius@qoto.org IRC is fine but it does not have feature parity with Matrix or XMPP.

There are a lot of things that IRC simply does not do.

@ullard @SuperDicq i spend 10 years with XMPP in half working state. stuff like file transfers never worked right, the functions that worked were roughly IRC level. i started using matrix in 2017 or 2018 and it just worked ™.

i think IRCv3 looks very promising and they even manage to not fuck up everything existing by it. the only thing they need are clients which look more like messengers.

i actually have set my mind on using IRC more in the lasts months, i just don't know people on there. i use matrix mostly for RL stuff and some select channels. it's the usual problem of people being on different messengers.

maybe i should just use IRC for shitposting or something.

@ullard @SuperDicq ... with shitposting being likely more worthwhile than RL seriousposting where i constantly expect that someone turns crazy, reporting me to some minitru.

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