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they want RMS gone to skinwalk the FSF because of the standard license header allowing for use of later versions:

> This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.

they can just take any permissive garbage license, call it GPLv4 and do what they like.

@bonifartius
>to skinwalk the FSF because of the standard license header allowing for use of later versions:
:what:

@begsby it does. GPL doesn't limit how things are used given the sources are supplied to the users. it's perfectly fine to put something using GPL software into a nuke.

@bonifartius @begsby Pretty much, if any license starts to restrain freedom then it's a slippery slope towards full proprietary, any people proposing any sort of stuff like that are tools to the corpos and co.

@mangeurdenuage @bonifartius is see, i was hooked to a real tin foil theory. But looks like im not the only one who likes the idea. gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#

@begsby @bonifartius
The thing is that you also have too look into the perspective of this.
The GPL is a legal contract. It has no god like power and people using it don't often want to emulate god like power thought automated omnipotence/omnipresence unlike proprietary entities who does that at every level, thus punishment can be instantaneous in those case unlike people who violate the GPL or other permissive licensing.

Meaning that evil people will do evil with the software even if it's GPL, but that doesn't mean the license shouldn't be enforced when people are caught doing so.
That's what I see Louis Rossmann fail to understand by wanting to do his own proprietary license on his side.
@bonifartius I think this is quite conspiracy theory. and I'm not sure that GPL isn't copyrighted in any way by FSF. they're quite advanced and skilled in law. they had more than enough of that.

@iron_bug i still believe the example license header used by everyone allows for this scenario. the part i quoted specifically says "as published by the Free Software Foundation", so anyone who wants to do this needs to control the FSF.

after all, things are a conspiracy theory until they become reality :P

@bonifartius
>after all, things are a conspiracy theory until they become reality :P
And a lot of them have become reality in the past years.
@bonifartius No, you may not; "The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions of the GNU General Public License from time to time. Such new versions will be similar in spirit to the present version, but may differ in detail to address new problems or concerns."

Any possible "GPLv4" published by a Proprietary Software Foundation is not from the FSF, thus it would be invalid.

A weak license would not be "similar in spirit" and therefore would be invalid also.
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