> wanting Mozilla to be against for-profit corporate control of the web

Yeeaaah. Snowball chance in hell, might as well ask Oracle to license Solaris under MIT.
Like Mozilla is a "foundation" (as in board-controlled funds, there's no members) and a silicon-valley corporation in a trenchcoat.
So unsurprisingly you get: LLMs, Adtech sold as privacy-respecting, acquiring corporations and failing to open-source the technology, removing RSS/Atom feeds discovery, …

And bonus on the FOSS side of things:
- Hard-requiring Firefox extensions to be signed by Mozilla which is effectively Tivoization;
- Making DRM integrated into Firefox, which btw triggers when JS libs merely check support, instead of being an extension/plugin you explicitly have to add like for Ruffle (or Adobe Flash back then)
@lanodan Mozilla is getting down by its own weight of being stupid
@captainepoch Well that too, after all their user count is slowly but surely eroding: https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity

But like… even if they wouldn't be a Tool, Mozilla ought to be regarded as like Apple or Opera/Vivaldi, they can try to boast privacy but in the end Mozilla is mostly just a corporation.

It's not an activist organisations comparable to like EFF or FSFE; or Framasoft or Codeberg; or NLNet (which funds so many projects it's kind of unreal).
@lanodan I think Mozilla was an OK activist organization in the past, but when corporate money starts to flow... Activism ceases to exists because it enters into conflict.

Meh... Mozilla already lost the moment they allowed Google's money into their hands, either as a corp or organization, it doesn't matter.
@captainepoch Mozilla accepted Google's money basically right from the start, at least as far as Firefox is concerned (might have been a bit different in Mozilla Suite era).

Compare with like Opera where there was really a before and after Google money in terms of business model.
@lanodan @captainepoch Opera is the sad example of the fact that most people expect their software to be free (as in beer). They tried to make their browser paid software and it backfired massively.
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