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in deutschland bekämpfen wir inflation mit inflationsausgleichszahlungen!

@DCR @ElMapu sollte bei den meisten sachen gehen, ja. kann man ja testen obs kaputt geht :)

@iron_bug @icedquinn i'm increasingly disenchanted with many modern protocols, even if the projects are a good idea.

e.g. matrix has some nice parts and good ideas, but the protocol is in reality just a moderately good rest api.

XMPP works fine, but XEP hell killed it.

i think with many protocols there just are too many moving parts so you always end up with unintended side effects or things not working properly across implementations.

@icedquinn @gamer Yeah XML is better imo but it mostly lost outside enterprise.

@sun @icedquinn @gamer i really don't get the hate xml receives, it's good stuff. if someone holds it wrong it doesn't make it a bad tool. can't do nmap.org/book/output-formats-o with json.

@icedquinn ASN.1 is probably one of the more sane choices for encoding things, yeah. I do like the ascii line protocols though because they are rediciously easy to parse as well, even when they not follow a particular standard.

ember looks interesting!

@icedquinn nothing wrong with prefixed lines, it's more about how the data is formatted. sonething IRC, SMTP, etc. do seems to be correct.

unfortunately everything is bloated json now which somehow manages to be even worse than bloated xml.

@icedquinn i never got anything except plain text to reliably work with xmpp, expecially file transfers.

i think the old line based protocols like IRC are residing in a very deep local optimum. everyone tries to replace them, and either it's not really worth it or things are killed by the own complexity.

only problem IRC has is that E2EE is hard to do within 512 characters ;)

@icedquinn i wonder if there is anything vaguely modern which isn't shit from a protocol perspective.

@ElMapu ich glaub der ?fbclid=... teil in der url ist tracking und kann weg. gibt auch plugins für browser mit denen man das ohne kopieren kann, aber wie gut das funktioniert ist die frage ;)

industrial society 

> technophiles are ignorant of systems and forget when they introduce something it has ripple effects

:neocat_think: that part appears to be true
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hii!! Anyone has some coop sven maps to recommend?

I tried to look up "Appeal to Authority" on several of the many logical fallacy sites out there, and every one I found lists an unusual caveat. They claim that an appeal to authority is a legitimate argument, as long as the authority in question is an "expert" in the relevant field, and there is "consensus" amongst the experts that the matter is "settled".

So what they're saying is that an appeal to authority is not fallacious, as long as you commit a bandwagon fallacy instead.

What a psyop. This isn't logic; it's propaganda.

Quick refresher on the scientific method: Science is never "settled". That's not how science works. For one thing, those "experts" are humans, and humans are fallible. Full stop. There is ALWAYS room for doubt.

If the last four years have taught us anything, it's that "experts" are just as susceptible to jumping on bandwagons as normal people - more, once you factor in the certification boards that take away the livelihoods of the ones who question the "settled" science.

An appeal to authority occurs when someone backs up an argument by saying *who* agrees with it, rather than *why* it should be so. This is a fallacy, in the formal logic sense. This doesn't mean the argument isn't true; just that it isn't proof. There are no exceptions just because you really really want to believe the authority.
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