My predictions: Twitter will be the first of the social media Old Guard to collapse. Facebook will be the second. What follows will be a war of sorts between decentralized platforms like Mastodon and Diaspora and centralized, though "free speech focused" platforms like BitChute, Minds and Gab. They will probably split along political lines (Mastodon and Diaspora lean mostly left; MGB, right), and they're pretty evenly matched, so I don't know who's going to win; it may tie pretty closely to the political situation of the next four to eight years.

@4of92000 Self-inflicted demises. Twitter committing fully to fascism, Facebook’s major failures with privacy and other issues, they will probably blame outside factors but it will be their own fault.

They probably won’t die off completely, just hang around without the level of impact of their heyday.

@doctornovakaine "Twitter committing fully to fascism"?

I was more concerned about the opposite problem; Jack Dorsey's straight-up said his office leans left.

@4of92000 Not in the slightest. Jack reinstated Richard Spencer, a known Neo-Nazi, and Alex Jones, an alt-right figurehead. And now Twitter is hijacking accounts and adding likes on them to tweets from Trump and other alt-righters to force the dissemination of their viewpoint. That is straight-up fascism.

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There's a difference between granting fascists (who while granted Spencer is, Jones really isn't; he's just kinda a general right-wing nutcase) a platform and agreeing with them. I think Dorsey made the wrong call in suspending him for "hate speech" rules instead of actual ToS violations, and I don't like hate speech rules in general (because those who give a shit are those who are the most easily offended). And I'm on an instance with few to no restrictions thereon, and it's rather freeing. (It also has a 65k-character limit, which is nice.)

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if MGB won, just because a lot of the Mastodon base right now (at least mastodon.social) is so policing (of themselves and others). I mean, you kicked off Wil fucking Wheaton, and he's as far left as I thought you could get before joining Mastodon (*Soviet national anthem intensifies*).

I think Spencer and Jones have the right to speak. I also think we have the right to prove them wrong on those same platforms. Shutting them up, unless they are literally directing violence against people, only gives those in power the tools to shut up whoever the fuck they want for whatever reason they want.

@4of92000 Granting fascists a platform validates them and gives their ideology legitimacy. We've been through this in history, it has NEVER ended well when they get a chance at power. I am not a free speech absolutist, there are certain viewpoints that are not up for debate, and ideologies that say certain people are subhuman are unacceptable and deserve no platform.

Also, I literally just joined Mastodon today so I have no idea what history there is, only that I've not been a part of it.

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Forgot to say this before; too lazy to use the stupid delete and rewrite "feature":

Giving fascists a platform does not legitimize them (whatever the hell that means); it merely says that the person who is running the platform either considers their ideas non-threatening or considers the act of censorship more threatening than the speech itself.

I am a free-speech absolutist not because I like what Jones and Spencer and Kessler and such are saying; I wish they'd shut up as much as you do. I am a free-speech absolutist because when a government, or any hegemonic entity, gets the power to shut down political ideas it doesn't like, it invariably abuses it.

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@4of92000 Some ideas should be shut down. We settled the Nazi thing 70 years ago, we stood up and said that has no place in the world. White supremacy should have been shut down long ago much more vociferously than it has been. These are inherently harmful ideologies and there is no debate about them - saying there is is saying there is legitimate question as to whether Jews should exist or non-whites should be second-class citizens.

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