l'empathie mécanique @dpwiz@qoto.org

@TomF @crash @randomascii Ritter Sort - quadratisch, praktisch, gut

@reidrac@social.sdf.org being up to date isn't a thing I've seen often. Most of my "family IT" is running old distros, even *if* they don't ignore their updates.

We can go and check vulnerability databases for an 5 y.o. browsers that people do run now and will continue to run for 5 years more.

@reidrac@social.sdf.org more containment layers over particularly common attack vectors? 🤷‍♀️

`ssh -D` is a real life-saver though.

@reidrac@social.sdf.org what about snaps pissed you off?

I had a fight with a totally flatpacked distro and it was awful beyond any horrors I had with snaps. Basically impossible to do anything in a terminal.

@cwebber@octodon.social would you be shocked if we had opinions on electricity?

@selfsame @everytoilet is biohacking gone too far?..

@doragasu @reidrac@social.sdf.org those security updates are free for personal use, but yeah.

@dpiponi Chromecast is a mess too. I wonder what's so difficult in there, so major corporations with literal billions invested in their stuff can't handle it.

@gsuberland who's KF?

@Danc A horrifying thought of HP BrainJet washing fluid appears...

@cwebber@octodon.social y is down/up

@reidrac@social.sdf.org You can be surprised! People have fun watching very *different* things. Watching bread getting baked certainly has something to it.

@cwebber@octodon.social 203X+ They were...

@reidrac@social.sdf.org you can stream some bread

@underlap @acowley found the discussion about that https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/7548

@underlap @acowley ah, that's cabal the file format

What would you like instead of that? Use toml and skip the custom format entirely?

@underlap @acowley it uses cabal the library, but not the cabal the binary. The naming is unfortunate...

@underlap @acowley Anyway, how adding one more build tool would help?..

We've had `stack` already, with this specific mission of improving user experience. And improve it did. Now we have two concurrent build systems. Meanwhile, users continue to receive the `cabal install whatever` advice and hurt themselves with it.

@underlap @acowley Unless you happen to support Hackage and Stackage the result would be very niche, unusable in anything beyond perhaps online playgrounds. And then users would have to encounter "poor" experience of the real world anyway.

If only we had a library for Common Architecture for Building Applications and Libraries or something like that...