@Teri_Kanefield
I don't know your age, but I'm 70 and Brownmiller was life-changing for me. It's too bad that your "rant" (no, I don't think it was a rant) is necessary. Thank you for refreshing our collective memory.

@msglincoln @Teri_Kanefield But is it necessary? I mean, there are a lot of shocking things in this thread! Like: someone in the 80s saying if you were more submissive then he wouldn't have to beat you, or rape being a property crime against the father – but like I'm pretty sure >95% of people in the US are against those things, and very enthusiastically so.

Who is holding the implied position that this thread is arguing against?

Coulter certainly doesn't take the position that Kanefield implies she is taking, for example. (read again what she said, she's not being particularly unclear.)

I suggest that making bizarre caricatures of your political opponents is unlikely to be useful.

@ech @msglincoln @Teri_Kanefield I used to think like that, until I realized that stupid assholes like Todd "legitimate rape" Akin are commonplace and often, like Akin, hold positions of power.

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@shrockp9 Yeah, or Whoopi Goldberg re. Polanski.

Although if I may be permitted to divine intent I think the point being attempted in these two cases is nowhere near "it's a property crime against the father". (And to my point, it's worth noting Akin lost, almost surely because of his stupid comment.)

Others noted adjacent phenomena like harassment and catcalling: indeed a lot of people are pretty oblivious as to why those kinds of things are harmful. But overall we've come a long way since a lot of the events described in the thread.

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