Biden Supporters: Trumpism is a cult. The MAGA crowd refuses to accept any criticism of Donald Trump, which sets a dangerous precedent.
*Jon Stewart makes a few mild jokes at Biden's expense*
Biden Supporters: How dare he criticize our candidate, this is totally unacceptable.
It’s nerves. This election shouldn’t even be close.
My view: when teetering on the brink of a racial purge followed by a dictatorship( At least Lex Luthor was actually smart when he became President), what is accomplished by hectoring (even slightly)Biden?
The jokes won’t seem so funny when a boot is on your neck.
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Was the racial purge the orange guy who has a history of disliking brown people? Or the senile guy who literally spent a decade of his career trying to fight to keep segregation alive because he didnt want his white child to go to school with other minorities in a "racial jungle" (his words)?
Like literally, im not trying to be a smart ass, when people refer to "The racist guy" that literally doesn't even begin to narrow it down out of those two.
@freemo @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts
"Was the racial purge the orange guy who has a history of disliking brown people?"
like your source, please. i think you're lying.
Sure, IEEE citation format:
[1] “Trump Management Company.” New York Urban League, Civil Rights Division, New York, Aug. 16, 1972
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts So... he owned a company with real estate agents who had unconscious bias or were flagrant racists... and didn't do enough about it?
I think you're using the word "racist" loosely, wrt. both presidents. But the word is losing all meaning, so go ahead I guess.
That seems highly unlikely given that it was coordinated between seperate properties of his, and was reported and Trump took no action.
What evidence do you have that some conspiracy was in place to lie and manipulate Trump so he couldnt/wouldnt be aware of massive racism taking place unilaterally across all his properties? Honestly considering it was in the news at the time I cant see how he couldnt have known.
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts No conspiracy; just salesmen/etc being jerks, unwittingly or not.
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts Or, I don't know – I thought that is what this lawsuit had been about. Did Trump do something obviously bad, or was he just captain of the ship when something happened? You see my point?
Oh I see your point, and as a general statement its perfectly valid. But makes absolutely no sense in this case where a coordinated scheme among upper management with code words and all was employed specifically to exclude blacks. With "C" meaning "Colored" that when added to an application would signal to the upper management (trump) specifically to exclude someone for being black.
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts "upper management"? Do we think Trump knew about the codes before the lawsuit? (I'd be *extremely* surprised to find out he did, I suspect he had almost nothing to do with the day-to-day.)
It was leaked publicly before the lawsuit, the leaking is in the mountain of evidence. Yes he very clearly knew and was most likely based ont he evidence directly involved in instituting it. Even if you can argue that it was somehow some huge company wide conspiracy that everyone knew except him at the top, you'd have to demonstrate that somehow (as its not a reasonable assumption). Short of any such evidence it seems quite obvious not only did he know, he was a part of it. But yes he clearly knew as it came up in the civil rights documents from the urban league.
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts ooh, interesting – can you point me to that documentation that shows he clearly knew? thanks!
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts ah; "This **implies** he knew it" I disagree. I mean maybe, we'll probably never know. (No conspiracy; I personally never tell Sundar Pichai what I do, for example, and I can honestly tell you I am not a part of any conspiracy to keep him in the dark. Seriously: why all the conspiracy talk? It's weird.)
"publicly leaked before the lawsuite as people were pretty pissed at Trump" – I believe you but don't see the relevance to deciding e.g. whether we think Trump is the sort of person who would have initiated or approved this policy, for example. I suspect he had no idea, and when word of the lawsuit came up and/or leaked details about codes he circled the wagons (rather than apologize/etc as would have been ideal) and was more than happy to reach the settlement. Or, maybe it was his idea because he wanted only whites in his properties. Who knows.
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts "Thats not what I said..." I meant to ask for whatever this refers to: "he clearly knew as it came up in the civil rights documents from the urban league."
@freemo @mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts if they show he clearly knew and allowed the policy to continue (i.e. before the point where he "circled the wagons" that I mentioned in my other post) I'd love to see it.
I'm sort of under the impression that most of the evidence that Trump is a racist is kinda reaching: "he said something bad about someone" or "someone said he said something but he denies it, no witnesses" or "a guy working for him did something racist". You know, garbage. Similarly for Biden, he pushed for draconian drug policies for example, which had an (obvious to you and me) terrible outcome, but of course a lot of people pushed for those with the best of intentions.
So if I'm wrong I'd love to hear it...
You are the one who has to show he clearly didnt know, as you are the one making the unreasonable assumption that a coordinated process at every level of the company was somehow kept from Trump despite everyone else knowing and participating in this actively as a coordinate scheme across multiple properties.
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Thats not what I said... I said that 1) it was a company wide system across multiple properties and reaching at every level with a formal system. This **implies** he knew it, ther eis no document proving he knew it. 2) in the source I cited it does touch on how this was already publicly leaked before the lawsuite as people were pretty pissed at Trump. So even if somehow you could excuse some grand conspiracy he was clueless to he clearly would have known about it befor ethe suite.
You are the one claiming there was a grand conspiracy across multiple properties and management that somehow Trump could have been unaware of despite the scale and pervasiveness... thats a huge leap so the burden of proof is on **you** to argue that case.
@mk @davidhmccoy @lowqualityfacts