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@toriver @mikenoe @GottaLaff well, one problem is people keep labeling them as pro-Russian, when actually I think the main thing here is people just don't want to be funding foreign wars. We've caused a lot of pain over the decades doing this, and I think lots of folks are wary of that.

I mean, I'm sure there are some russophiles or whatever, but that isn't, I think, the main thing going on. Point being: if you want voters to elect a congress willing to fund Ukraine, don't do that, instead the place to argue is about why we should fund a war – even a righteous cause – halfway around the world.

To me, I feel like the main thing is we need to either go all in and get it over with or stop funding altogether. The strategy we've taken of only giving Ukr. just enough to hold on seems designed to maximize death and suffering. Also Germany and the rest of Europe absolutely can and should take care of this, not us. Let us save up for Taiwan instead.

@JorisMeys @mikenoe @GottaLaff Republicans these days are isolationists, Dems are the warhawks.

@mikenoe @GottaLaff yeah, wondering this too: the main "funding" we do wrt. NATO is on our defense, which we of course do way more than any other country in NATO. Not really sure what this reduction in spending would do, at the end of the day.

@c_merriweather @GottaLaff not really: the agenda of these folks is to get Germany/etc to spend more on their defense. That would, I think we can all agree, be the best way to keep Putin in check.

@chartgerink The article is basically a polemic that makes all the usual anti-Israel arguments that you see nowadays (including the usual cringeworthy attempt to make it about racism). I mean, that is the bulk of it.

(Disappointingly (to me at least) it presents no alternative that Israel could have pursued in responding to the 10/7 attacks other than urban warfare, which is always awful.)

I'm no connoisseur of law reviews, but this is certainly not the sort of thing I'd expect to get published. Is there a lot of over-the-top political writing in the CLR?

@luckytran what's the latest on vaccines and transmission? I thought it was settled that they reduce severity but ultimately useless re. transmission?

@jplebreton Satya emailed the company like *2 weeks ago* saying "if you’re faced with the tradeoff between security and another priority, your answer is clear: Do security. In some cases, this will mean prioritizing security above other things we do, such as releasing new features.”

@shanie @pluralistic Great point; as we're more and more able to do real harm to the ocean and its ecosystems, we more and more need some kind of solution to managing this "commons". Ostrom's research might have some insight there, but I'm not sure how making a big fuss about the term "tragedy of the commons" helps anything.

@GraniteGeek @pluralistic It's not really a fact, though, is it? I mean he might have invented the term itself in 1968, but the argument is far older.

It's maybe not a great term, anyway: the "commons" e.g. in England hundreds of years ago would have been regulated to prevent those kinds of problems anyway. 😂

I always thought of "tragedy of the commons" as a nice argument for environmental regulation. Doesn't Ostrom's work anyway mostly talk about how to make, you know, rules, for governing commons? Like, if you didn't have the rules/customs, it would lead to, you know, tragedy?

Doctorow has some amazing articles, and some... not so amazing articles. This is the latter category, to be sure. What's even the point? That some people he disagrees with on mainstream issues are also fringy nutjobs?

@forrestbrazeal I like your insight about the non-wikipedia nature of it; WP doesn't always get this right either, but I think SO needs a better answer for addressing high-ranked (first comer) wrong answers.

@quixote @axeln @GreenFire Implicit in your response is that you believe it's obvious that BN ought to be doing something materially different in order to "depose Hamas" or otherwise respond. I want to believe it, too. I just don't know what that other thing could be.

@GreenFire @quixote Well put. I bet a good chunk of the kids fighting at UCLA would agree with that poster, but then lumping together based on catchy bumper stickers blows it up.

@axeln @GreenFire @quixote I am guessing 95% of people in your country and mine desperately want that ASAP.

The point of disagreement seems to mostly be around what is acceptable for the IDF to do to make that happen. (answers seem to range from "immediately disband and leave the area" all the way to "keep doing what they're doing until Hamas is no more")

@sil If it is a partisan thing to help the Tories, then Tories are incompetent; that tactic doesn't seem to work very well.

Turns out non-Tories aren't especially more likely to be incompetents who like can't get ID or something.

@realcaseyrollins @hornblower @freemo Didn't military aid go slightly down with Trump, after going up a lot under Obama and then before going up a lot again with Biden?

@Rhube @PerryM @augieray Might say the same about asthmatic dental hygienists.

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