For anyone out there who considers themselves a progressive I'm curious, do you see yourself as a conservative, liberal, or moderate who happens to also be ?

@shit @freemo they can fuck themselves! they arent really conservatives. also that party... do they think they can accomplish anything of value by democratic means?
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As for american parties being able to get things done through democratic processes. I'd say both the democrat and republican parties have both completely lost any ability to represent democracy at this point. In both cases their primaries have non-democratic emergency hatches built into the rules that I'd say invalidates them both.

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