For anyone out there who considers themselves a progressive I'm curious, do you see yourself as a conservative, liberal, or moderate who happens to also be ?

@shit @freemo they can fuck themselves! they arent really conservatives. also that party... do they think they can accomplish anything of value by democratic means?

@debbie
Huh? a progressive is anyone who wants to see reform, specifically if it is significant reform in many areas of government.

I wouldnt say that a conservative who wants to see reform towards conservatives values is somehow against conservatism.

Also conservative isnt a party, neither is progressiveism. They are ideologies that members of various parties can embody in different ways.

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@freemo @shit aha well ok to me "progressive" means leftist. that is how we use that word here
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@debbie
There are some people who use that word synonymous with "leftist". But in my expiernce the only people who do that tend to be the sort of leftists who tend to be ignorant of opposing values. Not saying your one of them at all, just tends to be the pattern. I usually find it a rather ignorant redefinition of the word that was in use much longer than that by people on both ends. It is a very recent trend, but I doubt it will become a very popular one world-wide.

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