lol, its funny cause it is true.I've seen so much horrible stuff to come out of ANTIFA. What scares me is how much more common they are than literal Nazis.
@freemo It was onto something until that last panel. Tried to sneak it in there but the idea that the alt-right is not a mainstream, accepted part of the current political climate is laughable. They've infiltrated everywhere from the NYPD to the White House itself.
@letthewatersroar I think you meant racists, not lteral nazis. Dont get me wrong in many ways they are just as bad.
@freemo Sebastian Gorka and Stephen Miller are as close as you'll get outside of a graveyard in Berlin.
@letthewatersroar Not sure, I never looed into their track record to say if i agree or not. Did they advocate racial genocide publicly? Do they show swastikas with reverence? Have they praised hittler as a good leader? If any of that is true I'd be inclined to agree.
@freemo Sebastian Gorka was part of a literal Nazi organization.
@letthewatersroar He may be a valid example then, id have to do the research, wouldnt surprise me, the right has plenty of racism.
@freemo I'm not trying to muddy the water and suggest all the red caps are Nazis, that's ridiculous. I choose my language very carefully when it comes to these kinds of allegations but I worked for an org that was responsible for monitoring and analysing the far/extreme right online for nearly 3 years. If it takes public, recorded admissions of praising Hitler to qualify then the danger will be overlooked until it's too late.
@letthewatersroar I'm not saying there ist danger or racism. But a Nazi is a very specific thing, it is someone to is a fanboy of the third-reich and supports their ideas. Someone can be a racist who is as bad or worse than a Nazi and still not be a Nazi.
The reason i care is because recognizing this distinction is very important if the left wants to be taken seriously (something they have an issue with lately). Even if someone is legitimately wrong and racist when they are referred to as a nazi it looks immature and causes the argument to loose validity. But if we call them what they are, a disgusting racist, then at least people will listen in my expiernce.
@freemo It's a wider term than you'd think, we just append prefixes or pseudonyms to highlight the similarities in ideas. Even with the the third Reich there were differences of opinions and beliefs but they were united by certain common elements.
I don't disagree that online, especially on the hellsite, it's abused into oblivion but I think that's just a symptom for our inability to engage in political discourse. 'Nazi' is an egregious example, for sure, but one of many
@letthewatersroar Sure, If its appropriate then by all means use it. But they have to be pretty much trying to push for slavery or at least segregation before pulling ht enazi card even enters your thought process IMO.
@freemo I posted this on diaspora*. Some interesting comments... https://diasp.org/posts/ce9c3380b54c0136287f047d7b62795e
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