@freemo This has basically nothing to do with either ideology. Please read some history.
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@reactor I am not talking about what the two are on paper or ideally speaking should be. I am talking about how self-proclaimed liberals and conservatives behave in america. By that interpretation it is entirely accurate IMO.
In the netherlands (where I have since moved to) this does not hold true.
@freemo That's fair and I guess if your venting about the general state of politics this is the place for it.
