@pschwede
I appreciate your thoughts so far, thank you

Well sure there are tons of books. I'm not interested in books im curious about your thoughts. but i mean its cool if your just no longer interested in the topic too. Also fair if your just not sure.

As for best judgment, while i agree you can be wrong and that can be costly, what could possibly have a better chance of getting it right than ones "best judgment"...

I mean in my mind you have two choices, kill or not kill. One will do more good than the other. You are required to pick one. So what can we do other than use "best judgment" to minimize harm in the choosing.

Anyway, at this point we are probably beating a dead horse. But please if you have anything else to add feel free.

@freemo You could consider not to devide but to agree that both sides are valid in point of perspective. So what could be else possible if you consider this. Like, there are choices who turn out fine and which that don't. So maybe it's just a matter of selection which arguments are be seen as valid. Nobody can tell the future how things turn out, you just act on experience with similar situations. Should a highly depressive individual be allowed to kill itself if there are so called treatments?

@freemo I would say yes and no, it depends. You can't tell if a treatment is working out or not. There are studies, right, but under which circumstances were they been done?

@freemo So at the end, I think it's not possible to measure happiness at all. Because it means something else for everybody. But what we have, are different kind of needs. Like food, water, a roof over your head, someone to talk to, to be left alone when you need it. Maybe we have to get rid of the perspective of the right to be happy how everyone individually things it should be. But more like, does it hurt you when it is like that. I don't know.

@mundauf Just because t means something else for everyone doesnt mean it is unquantifiable. I mean one person may like grapes another person hates them. That just means giving one person grapes increases happiness and giving it to the other person does not.

I mean if i could scan your brain i could measure how happy you are in theory right?