@pschwede Well yea so the issue then isnt the studies, or the published statistics, just the conclusions we sometimes draw from them. In that case I 100% agree.

I think a better example than the bon bon for me is black crime rates in america. They are legitimately higher than other races, the statistics are real and they dont lie in that regard. The issue is some people wrongly assume that means blacks are more violent (they use it to support their racism).. this is of course a wrong conclusion. There are many reasons for this number ranging from them being targeted more by police to them simply living in poverty and thus the cause is poverty not race.

I usually cite that as a pretty good example most people can easily agree with.

@freemo @pschwede Lol. I remember when they first campaigned to make police all wear body cameras to stop them from being racist and targeting blacks, but now that those cameras are showing them being aggressive and unreasonably violent, those same people are now campaigning to have the cameras removed because it's making them look bad. Pathetic. Leftists will use any and all manner of mental gymnastics to lie to themselves and others.
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I find leftists are just as eager to lie to themselves as the right. Its more a problem with americans than it is to do with any one party IMO.

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