@sda I was refering to free for the student, not for the teachers, they would still be paid.

@freemo
Right, from the majic money machine... which steals majic from everyone else. If we're going to have "free" university, why not free housing, free internet, free food, free *everything*

@sda
No from taxes. The reason taxes make sense for University is because having an educated populace means we are more capable of earning wealth as a nation. So as a country the amount of money we increase our GDP by would be higher than the costs.

As with everything if the ROI is higher than the cost then it's worth the investment. It's the same reason we build roads.

@freemo @sda overall agree, just need to be careful that universities actually teach something, no auditing means they turn into state-paid political recruiting centers.
State funded universities for non-superfluous careers is a good decision.

@freemo Yup, in a fantasy world.

@sda Well if you want to get into the technicals I beleive that it should extend beyond just universities and apply to any educational system. This would include vocational training, and training for those with low IQ on other highly skilled tasks (low IQ can still do many highly skilled tasks, just not intellectual ones).

So yes, even people with an IQ 50, no not a fantasy, many of them learn skills.

@freemo Ok, so free university doesn't include universal university (as with high school). I'm relieved you weren't implying what I was inferring.

@sda If by that you mean everyone must go to university, then no I dont think that should be the case. I do think it is good for most people to gain the level of skills a university would give, but I see no reason youd have to squire that through a university, and other types of skills (like vocational ones) are just as valid for sure.