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Was there ever a time that referring to women as sweet confectionary was actually effective, "sugar", "baby cakes", "pumpkin pie", "sweet thing", "Honey buns", the list seems endless. I think most people would see these terms as offensive these days. Was that always the case? Why is it offensive now?

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@freemo I don’t Get offended by such things. I call people sugar. For the love of god femnazi’s can fo ... for people to seriously get caught up in stupid ish like this ... just makes me want to vomit .Women have long used terms as well, and men hardly walk around saying any of those things today . I mean seriously can people really stop the women are oppressed bs already?

@inverness01 I mostly agree in principle. I think the issue isnt so much the words but how they are used.

I've always said its more about intent.

@freemo yes the context is important .... always ... I just don’t get offended and honestly don’t recall men ever really saying these things and I am no spring chicken .... now I will admit when I first start dating someone I DO NOT like it when they call me β€œbaby” right away not because it is offensive but because I feel that term is for when we are much closer to one another and don’t want that term of endearment right away. When you don’t say it back usually the message is received .

@freemo I do know women that do get offended by words . Sometimes it really is just a slip ofthr tongue. I know my old boss absolutely hated being called honey by anyone I know at times when talking I have slipped using a term of endearment and why I don’t get offended .Women actually do it more than men. I chuckled after ordering a coffee at Dukin donuts and the girl called me sweetie pie or something really old school . I just shrug it off but had it been my old boss..not so much

@inverness01 Words are sometimes offensive, sometimes not. Depends on intent. Nothing wrong with being offended by words within reason.

@freemo people all too often get offended imo but to each their own ...

@inverness01 yes peopel get offended when it isnt called for, I agree. But I still maintain some words are worthy of being offended by, others are not.

@freemo yes but I am speaking pretty much to term of endearment types of words - not others

@inverness01 Ahh well in that case I agree, they are usually harmless if used appropriately

I always saw those as terms of endearment between lovers rather than a general term to refer to women, or at least I'm sure there's men who are called that too.

@licho Fair i guess context changes it a lot. Calling a female waitress "honey buns" strikes me as a bit rude for example.

@freemo do you mean referring to women not known to you by these terms? I find it odd that people would not call loved ones by these terms, regardless of gender. They aren’t offensive are they? I find all of those terms very endearing and nurturing in tone. I must be a monster.

@freemo
Offense is not something that can be given unless the intended recipient accepts it.
One can not "be offended." Rather, one chooses to accept offense or not.

@sda Perhaps but one can have the intention of causing offense, even if ultimately the power is not with them.

@freemo
Yup. Laugh at their intent and they actually realize their powerlessness.

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