I know I talk alot of shit about trump, and I really dont like him much. But I must admit, he has done an amazing job handling the coronavirus so far.

Here are some of the things he has done that I am fairly pleased with:

1) Every year he has been in office he signed into law year-after-year budget increases for the CDC

2) He quickly barred incoming flights from both china and europe once cases became significant

3) he quickly issued a state of emergency and orderer the deployment of a US navy quarantine ship to help

4) His administration approved covering all costs for mandatory medical testing and quarinting for COVID-19 patients...

5) He issued a 1,000$ UBI to all american citizens to help alleviate financial problems.

He definitely did a better job than the last few presidents did when handling H1N1 and SARS.

@freemo @lnxw37a2

Supporters and apologists of Trump can't be attacked at a moral, human level. And, yes, give credit where credit is due. However, the obvious shortcomings of Trump and his administration HAVE to be accepted, not sugar-coated, and scrutinized by ALL. This includes many Trump supporters whom he screwed over by installing nothing but lobbyists and billionaires who promote nothing more than *crony capitalism*. I say this as a captialist, the system can't continue to be rigged -- no matter if you're left, right, or center.

@mobius

Your main point about installing lobbyists and billionairs for cronyism is valid, and certainly something Trump is guilty for. But to be fair so were the clintons, hillary, Bush, all the presidents.

Hell even sanders lived on welfare his whole life, destitute and poor, then became a career politician and is now a multi-millionaire...

Not that it makes it right but your literally describing every politician and president with very few exaceptions.

@lnxw37a2

@freemo @mobius @lnxw37a2 > Hell even sanders lived on welfare his whole life, destitute and poor, then became a career politician and is now a multi-millionaire...

this isn't really true. he didn't live off of welfare, he held many jobs - and "career politician" is very different from being a crony capitalist.

just because other people are bad doesn't mean Trump isn't far far worse. I don't like Clintons or Bushes or Gores (Nader 2000!) or even Obamas that much because of their crony capitalism... but each of them are far far better than Trump.
@freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius also, it's very hard to run a political campaign full-time without being wealthy or having wealthy contributors... so if anything, Bernie's pre-political poverty is a good thing for his record.

@mewmew

No thats a cop out.. you can run a campaign, get billions in donations, and not actually cash it out for **yourself**. If those costs go directly to your campaign then it has no effect on your personal net worth.

He owns 3 homes and is a multi-millionaire, no he doesn't need that to run a campaign.

@lnxw37a2 @mobius

@freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius I think you misunderstood my point. I'm talking about him before he was elected to office being poor. He was poor because he was working full-time to get elected as an independent - that is a full-time job.

As for his wealth, he didn't steal campaign contributions - he wrote a book and people bought it.

@mewmew

I didnt mean to imply he stole campaign funds. The point is, you dont need to be personally rich to run for president. Campaign funds arent you rmoney so you can have plenty of money for a campaign and not need to be rich.

The idea that he was only poor because hw was working full time to get elected is a weak excuse. A highly skilled and educated individual has more than enough opportunity to make money and pursue a career in politics. The fact is, sanders isnt a very intelligent person nor is he very skilled.

Literally sanders only skill is pandering to the public for popularity while he hemorrhages money.

@lnxw37a2 @mobius

@freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius He doesn't need to be personally rich but why shouldn't he be? He didn't get his money by exploiting others. He's not a billionaire.
@mewmew @freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius
Don't you think it's a bit strange for the life long socialist to be so rich that they can own multiple houses?
@mewmew @freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius
Really?
He preaches about wealth equality, about how poor the poor are, about how we need to take wealth from the rich and give ot to the poor, and there he is, sitting in one of his MULTIPLE houses.
@Holot @freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius so? he'd happily pay a higher taxrate and has done nothing to evade taxes.

he hasn't made his money in an exploitative way either.

there's nothing wrong with wanting to change society while living in society.
@mewmew @freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius
He could also live what he preaches right now, but he doesn't.
Doesn't really make me think he's legit.
@Holot @freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius how could he "live what he preaches"? he's not exploiting workers, his campaign staff are unionized, and his policy has never been that millionaires should not exist.
@mewmew @freemo @lnxw37a2 @mobius
Instead of buying multiple houses for himself he could have paid off peoples student loans, or bought a house for a poor family or any number of other things that would be in line with what he preaches, if he was legit that is.
Instead he spent the money making his lavish live even more lavish.
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@Holot

The irony is that actual billionaires do this all the time. In general they spend a huge percentage of their income helping others (far more than people of lower classes).

But bernie, not so much.

To quote actual figures, the rich whom he wishes to tax out of existence give ~6% of their net income to charity each year on average. Warren Buffet the most generous gave 85% of his **net worth**... how about Bernie.. about half that at only 3% of his income from a multi-million dollar book deal

Sorry but the man is a disgrace when you look at his actual actions and compare it to what he preaches (which changes every week)

@mewmew @lnxw37a2 @mobius

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