I notice democrats often point to Dr. Fauci as a way to attack Trumps COVID response.. While I myself think the USA has, for the most part, handled COVID pretty decent I dont think its due to Trumps vision or anything else. I think it was more luck on his part, than intellect. BUT I do still find it compelling to share this quote from an interview with Dr. Fauci where he clearly stated he was impressed with the Trump administrations response to COVID. Not because I am impressed by Trump but more because I think the negative narrative against him is way overblown and not really a reflection of the reasonable job the USA did overall.
Here is the exact wording from the interview (there was a bit of irrelevant rambling I removed at ..., I suggest you look up the full interview for full context):
MARK LEVIN: Welcome back. Dr. Fauci, let me ask you a question. You've been doing this a long time. Have you ever seen this big of a coordinated response by an administration to such a threat? A health threat?
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI: Well, we've never had a threat like this and the coordinated response has been, there are a number of adjectives to describe it. Impressive, I think is one of them.
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So I can't imagine that that under any circumstances that anybody could be doing more. I mean, obviously, we're fighting a formidable enemy -- this virus. This virus is a serious issue here.
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I'd be interested in hearing why you think the USA has handled the situation pretty decent?
With the largest number of cases and being the 10th worst country for deaths per million (it would be higher if it wasn't for countries like Andorra and San Marino) I personally struggle to see the success.
@adrysdale Lets put it this way, canaday and europe since mid une onward have mostly all had increases cases of covid (4x to 8x in most countries). Likewise, however the USA has decreased its cases by 1/3 with clear downward trend.
So if I look at long-term trends we seem to be doing better, and have been doing better, than most countries.
Surely the initial response which has caused the USA to have the highest number of cases and an extremely high number of deaths is part of the response?
As the for the clear downward trend, I'm not sure I see that. The USA have about the same (if not a greater) number of daily cases than in mid June - with a spike in August.
I've attached a couple of graphs taken from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ data.
@adrysdale By the way, as I covered, long term cases are what we care about, not short term case count, not initial case count, and not death rate (since this varies greatly on comorbidity which is not similar)... But even if you really insist at looking at overall numbers instead of trends.. America still looks pretty good. While we still cant really look at deaths because Americans tend to be significantly more obese, we can look at cases to get an outlook on case number, an the USA doesnt look bad at all.
Compare overall case count in the USA vs Canada, for example:
USA: 0.00679% is, as of today, the current percentage of the population infected
Canada: 0.00565%
So very comparable in terms of overall percentage of the population infected, coupled with the fact that the USA has had a decrease of 1/3 in case count with a downward trend since June while canada has had a 9x increase in case count in that same period and is trending upward faster every week. I think that says everything when we really look at America's long-term outlook which looks a hell of a lot better than canadas.
Hell lets look at a few other countries just to make sure that isn't a fluke.
In that time the UK has seen a 5x increase in case count, In terms of infection rate currently 0.0107% of the population is effected with corona virus, thats nearly **twice** the total case count over the USA.. So presuming you are from wales it looks like you should be criticising the UK before the USA, your much **much** worse off than us.
The Netherlands in that time, my second home, has had a wopping 53x increase in case count in that time. Thats 0.0190% of the population has it, that is 2.8x higher than the usa.
Sweden is a bit different only because they actually followed the pattern of the a bit USA and didnt have strict across the board lockdowns, which as I stated was our saving grace. But even then they pushed things a bit too far and didnt do as well a job as the USA in terms of long term outlook, but for now they are doing one of the best out of europe, as a fluke more than anything else. Even so since early to mid july sweden's case rate has increased a whopping 16.3x while the USA, as I stated has decreased by 1/3 in that time. The total percentage of population currently infected is 0.00671%. So they have virtual the exact same infection rate as the USA, but with an infection rate trend of 16x increase and still going up while the USA is at 1/3rd down.. I'd say even europe's best country, sweden, the USA would have ya beat.
Literally the USA is overall doing significantly better than almost any country we could compare to in Europe or even canada or the UK... Long term we made the right call.
Lets not forget the economic fallout we avoided by not laying on the lockdown too hard!