@stux

I would be all about that. Thing is the way this election is going is going to be a no going back sort of election. The democrats have acts massively childishly in every respect across the globe. There has been violence and personal attacks for 4 years on aa scale I have never seen. This leads to a lack of criticality in candidates because they feel their side is above reproach, so you wind up with people as horrific as biden. The dems winning this election, if they do, is going to set a president where any hope of mature and productive politics goes out the window. Expect every year to look like these last 4 years, a candidate with dementia, an honesty problem, who disrespects women and minorities to get into office will be the norm on the ballot from this point forward for the democrats.

@Claudibunsen

@freemo @stux sounds like the past 4 years under trump..

Attacks on the lgbt community, domestic terrorism on the rise, a morbidly obese racist clown that was very much buddy buddy with a pedophile that had the same great taste in women,a Fake-tan withhas early stage of dementia, whom mocks people that have disabilities including his late father, surrounded by a bunch of crooks, and criminals, and a vp whom is a Christian sharia guy...
Sounds like a good reason to cheer

@Claudibunsen

Trump is far from great, though the fact that you resort to body shaming, and thus are ok being hurtful to all overweight people in one swath just to get the chance to attack trump, is troubling to say the least.

Though a lot of that is an overexageration, not that I entierly disagree, he has been far from tactful and that is and should hurt him. but it is fairly naive to the details in a lot of that.

Lets take domestic terrorism for example, if we look since 2008 so we cover both Trump and Obama the highest year for domestic terrorism was 2015, in other words, under Obama. since Obama after Trump got in office it has trended mostly downward. So this is not just incorrect, but the exact opposite is technically true (Source: The center for investigative reporting - "Type investigations and Reveal" publication).

The pedophile stuff.. that one is hard to judge.. I mean sure he knew a guy who turned out to be a pedophile... so did a lot of people. Thats pretty weak evidence he engaged in wrong doing with him, we would need more info to even speculate.

Him making fun of someone with disabilities I think is a good one, the only semi-legitimate point on the list. He did make fun of someone who happened to have disabilities. But according to trump the way in which he mocked him is the way he mocks most people and was not due to his disability. Now at first this was a big issue for me and I did condemn trump for it, still do but to a lesser extent. Back when the claim was first made I reviewed a compilation of video of all the times trump mocked random people in the same way. To my surprise he used the same gesture (which looked like he was mocking the disability) to mock dozens of other normally-abled people. This made it clear that what trump said was true, that while he was mocking the person, and I see that as childish and not proper for a president, he was **not** mocking his disability.

So with that said I look at the list you just made, which mostly just boils down to "he is immature in how he speaks and mocks people", which admittidly isconcerning, but pales in comparison to the things Both Biden and Kamala have done to attack and disenfranchise minorities, women, and the LGBT. Trump doesnt come anywhere near as bad as Biden on moral grounds..

1) biden started his career based on a lie about his education that surfaced only after he got into office, turns out he didnt go to schools he claimed to and was at the bottom of his class and didnt get the grades he claimed either

2) He also started his career opposing desegregation efforts. His first decade or so of his career was focused on keeping blacks and whites in seperate schools under the claim he did not want to see white schools turned into a "jungle" by introducing black students (his choice of words).

3) He supported and took part in the murder of US civitizens without due process, one of the biggest scandals of the Obama administration.. murder.. worse yet in one case it was a 16 year old boy and american citizen part of the drone murder scandals.

4) Kamala is a cop who has a horrific history of abusing blacks and minotiries during her career.

5) Kama spearheaded and passed SESTA one of the worst abuses on women and sex workers to date

6) Has a clear case of rapidly progressing dementia. Trump does not, he is just a moron which isnt much better but at least it wont progress as it is with Biden.

7) Kama has an abusive record towards Trans men and women as well passing and supporting bills that deny trans their medication when in jail and leading to suicide and other trauma as a result.

8) Hell she even attacks parents where she supported sending parents to jail as a consequence for home schooling their own children.

9) Finally lets not forget what Biden said at his acceptance speech about wanting to force-drug the american population with a vaccine that hasn't been released yet and was rushed through all the normal FDA safety checks. He said he wanted to require vaccines certificates people would have to show if they are on the streets. We are literally talking about this guy supporting mass drugging on a population without their consent and at gun point.

Given my list compared to yours, I will take Trump any day.

@stux