As someone who donates a lot of time tutoring students I can say this one I agree with :)

@freemo "educators" are actually bad people who should get roped in simulations.

@crunklord420 While there are certainly some shitty educators, most in fact, it isnt for lack of trying. They certainly arent evil people. So to assume all educators are bad people is just absurd to me. If you had said most educators are shitty educators though I might have agreed.

@freemo @crunklord420 No one intends to be a bad person, it's a distinction without a difference
@Frankie @crunklord420 @freemo I think people are really good at rationalizing whatever they want to make themselves the protagonist of every scenario in their own recollection of events.

@Frankie

Or simply a different perception of it.

When I think of even the most evil people they almost always justify their evil as some greater good. Serial killers for example claiming it is what god wanted them to do and want not.

I think the vast majority (not all but almost) of people justify their evil actions as good ones somehow

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@freemo @crunklord420 @realDonaldTrump Yeah, the vast majority of people are neurotypical, cowardly and stupid, that's obvious. I'm not sure what appeals to a divine mandate made serial killers have to do with the majority of people, but I'll go ahead and just ignore your weird and completely inappropriate choice of example. Anyway, I took issue with a totalistic statement:
>No one intends to be a bad person
that was made by someone that until now I had assumed had some experience with and understanding of a different kind of person than the average cow-man with a cow-man's ego and morality. Literally who cares.

@Frankie
I would agree with you that the totalistim of the statement made it untrue. Ki da weird you dont see the relevance of serial killer example though. Its to show that in even the most obvious cases of evil people still tend to be able to see it as good. For more everyday sorta of evil it would make sense that would be much easier to convince yourself it isnt evil since it is a less obvious sort of evil.
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@freemo @Frankie @crunklord420 Because your description isn't relevant to real life serial killers. It sounds like something out of a B movie.

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Isnt relevant? You mean except for all the real world serial murders who fit this exact description...

* Stanley Mossburg - murdered people because "god needs them" (his own words)

* albert fish - designed all his murders around stories in the bible, specifically genesis.

* Herbert Mullin 0 a bit reversed in this case, though the principle is similar. He heard voices from albert einstein telling him he was the new leader of the human race and was compelled to kill religious leaders.

* Gary ridgeway - Killed prostitutes because he through god thought they were evil. Even went so far as to leave religious symbology at the murder scenes intentionally.

I think you get the point...

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Be specific, which ones specifically said "I just like killing people" or similar? I never said serial killers killing for religious reasons was the norm, but I did say they almost always justify it some how (religion being only one example of that).

So what your really asking us to compare is the ratio of serial killers who provided some moral justification to why they did what they did, any justification, vs ones who have stated "I just enjoyed killing".

I am no expert, so I dont really know what the ratio would be, but I honestly dont know of any who didnt try to justify their actions somehow..

Since you seem to have an idea of what this ratio is can you list a few serial killers who explicitly stated they did it just cause they liked doing it and nothing else?

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