@Zoohouse For a second there I thought this was the USA (which says a lot).. got real worried for a hot minute.

@freemo @Zoohouse

> The o' voter fraud coup play

What if the election fraud was the real coup?

@Atlas

What if unicorns are real... what ifs are nice and all but unless there is some sort of reasonable evidence to suspect it to be the case its usually a safe bet to file it under "fantasies to write a book about"

@Zoohouse

@freemo @Zoohouse

Fraud is extremely incentivized in elections, and the default position should be to audit and validate rather than trust.

OP's premise seemed to be that because the military cited election fraud, it should be dismissed out of hand as if the claim was a unicorn. Why should I assume there wasn't fraud? What makes these politicians special and unique from the rest of humanity to the point that questioning the premise is dismissed out of hand?

I find it odd and unsettling that election fraud is verboten as a topic.

@Atlas

> Fraud is extremely incentivized in elections, and the default position should be to audit and validate rather than trust.

There was auditing and validating, a hell of a lot, and it found no evidence. (in the USA)

> OP's premise seemed to be that because the military cited election fraud, it should be dismissed out of hand as if the claim was a unicorn.

The OP and me are different people. The OP made no claims of unicorns and only quoted an article.

Me, I was not the op and I was talking about the USA, which has nothing to do with the OP's post about the military nor did I mention the military.

I am also the one who brought up unicorns and I suggested the suggestion of voter fraud in the usa should be dismissed as if a unicorn because all the evidence that was considered and all the investigations that were done didnt show even the slightest hint of organized fraud, at best isolated incidents that were so minimal as to not even approach anything significant.

@Zoohouse

@freemo

> There was auditing and validating, a hell of a lot, and it found no evidence. (in the USA)

Yes, the investigations were thorough, timely, and convincing:

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-judge-stacey-abrams-sister-wont-recuse-election-suit-rules-against-voter-purge-before-runoffs

Judge rules Virginia's late election law changes for mail-in ballots were illegal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-rules-virginia-s-late-election-law-changes-for-mail-in-ballots-were-illegal/ar-BB1d9atb

“We never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question. There were several states in which the law was changed by the secretary of State and not the state legislature. To me, those are clearly unconstitutional, and I think there’s there’s still a chance that those actually do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court.” - Rand Paul

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/24/watch-rand-paul-take-on-george-stephanopoulos-over-election-integrity-and-voter-fraud/

Georgia Republican Poll Watcher Discovered Recount Error Off By More Than 9,000 Votes For Biden
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/18/georgia-republican-poll-watcher-discovered-recount-error-off-by-more-than-9000-votes-for-biden/

This, is an excellent rundown of the quite unbelievable elements of this election:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/17/if-americans-can-no-longer-trust-our-elections-were-in-big-trouble/

Just because CNN doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

You can trust them. I don't.

@Atlas

This response shows you havent done any research regarding the links you posted or evidence and are literally just looking on google for anything that sounds like it vaguely supports your position.. The first link being the most damning in that regard.

> Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-judge-stacey-abrams-sister-wont-recuse-election-suit-rules-against-voter-purge-before-runoffs

Not even related to the presidential election we are talking about. This is literally about an entirely different election that took place after electing local state officials (senators). No relationship in any way to the presidential election being discussed.

> Judge rules Virginia's late election law changes for mail-in ballots were illegal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-rules-virginia-s-late-election-law-changes-for-mail-in-ballots-were-illegal/ar-BB1d9atb

This one of course is also complete nonsense and I even addressed it just a few days ago.

It only deemed specifically that letters that arrived throughthe mail that expiernced a technical error where the postmark did not print properly onto the letter and was not legible or absent could not be counted.

While it is perfectly reasonable that such a law might be deemed illegal anyone doing any actual objective research would have quickly discovered this accounts for virtually 0 actual cases. The number of letters that are accidentally missing a post mark are so unbelievably low that its laughable to even bring this up as a significant influence on election outcomes.

> “We never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question. There were several states in which the law was changed by the secretary of State and not the state legislature. To me, those are clearly unconstitutional, and I think there’s there’s still a chance that those actually do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court.” - Rand Paul

A quote from a republican politician hardly counts as credible evidence, but lets consider this shall we.

It is, of course and no suprise both a complete lie and a fiction.. lets look at the actual numbers shall we:

There are actually quite a few cases that were heard, of course, only the ones that actually had evidence, court cases can and will be dropped if no evidence is provided to have the case proceed.

In total 6 cases across different states were held in full, and a rulling was passed, all 12 failed to succeed. 2 trials are still on going but were not dropped and made it to a full trial that is still in progress, and 6 trials were heard, and failed to succeed but has been appealed and the appeal is on going.

Sounds like a much bigger number than 0.

> Georgia Republican Poll Watcher Discovered Recount Error Off By More Than 9,000 Votes For Biden
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/18/georgia-republican-poll-watcher-discovered-recount-error-off-by-more-than-9000-votes-for-biden/

Again complete lack of research on your part, this one actually shows the **opposite** of your claim. This error was caught during the normal process used to verify vote integrity and **not** due to any prompting or claim of voter fraud.

Sometimes human error occurs, thats why the system double and triple checks most votes and when an error is found it is corrected. This is exactly the case here, during the **normal** verification process they found one bin was mislabeled, it was corrected and when the final votes were announced it had already included this correct.

> This, is an excellent rundown of the quite unbelievable elements of this election:

No its not, its a horrific one, just like every single one of your links above were trivially debunked with even a moments research.. picking the things that agree with you from very obviously biased news sources just means you have a bunch of lies, a long list of lies is still lies.

> Just because CNN doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I agree, CNN is shit and they lie their asses off and bias everything they report for the left..CNN being biased and shit doesnt make your biased shit news source and less bias or shit.

i posted an actual picture of you doing research on this post for reference.