@Zoohouse For a second there I thought this was the USA (which says a lot).. got real worried for a hot minute.

@freemo @Zoohouse

> The o' voter fraud coup play

What if the election fraud was the real coup?

@Atlas

What if unicorns are real... what ifs are nice and all but unless there is some sort of reasonable evidence to suspect it to be the case its usually a safe bet to file it under "fantasies to write a book about"

@Zoohouse

@freemo @Zoohouse

Fraud is extremely incentivized in elections, and the default position should be to audit and validate rather than trust.

OP's premise seemed to be that because the military cited election fraud, it should be dismissed out of hand as if the claim was a unicorn. Why should I assume there wasn't fraud? What makes these politicians special and unique from the rest of humanity to the point that questioning the premise is dismissed out of hand?

I find it odd and unsettling that election fraud is verboten as a topic.

@Atlas

> Fraud is extremely incentivized in elections, and the default position should be to audit and validate rather than trust.

There was auditing and validating, a hell of a lot, and it found no evidence. (in the USA)

> OP's premise seemed to be that because the military cited election fraud, it should be dismissed out of hand as if the claim was a unicorn.

The OP and me are different people. The OP made no claims of unicorns and only quoted an article.

Me, I was not the op and I was talking about the USA, which has nothing to do with the OP's post about the military nor did I mention the military.

I am also the one who brought up unicorns and I suggested the suggestion of voter fraud in the usa should be dismissed as if a unicorn because all the evidence that was considered and all the investigations that were done didnt show even the slightest hint of organized fraud, at best isolated incidents that were so minimal as to not even approach anything significant.

@Zoohouse

@freemo

> There was auditing and validating, a hell of a lot, and it found no evidence. (in the USA)

Yes, the investigations were thorough, timely, and convincing:

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-judge-stacey-abrams-sister-wont-recuse-election-suit-rules-against-voter-purge-before-runoffs

Judge rules Virginia's late election law changes for mail-in ballots were illegal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-rules-virginia-s-late-election-law-changes-for-mail-in-ballots-were-illegal/ar-BB1d9atb

“We never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question. There were several states in which the law was changed by the secretary of State and not the state legislature. To me, those are clearly unconstitutional, and I think there’s there’s still a chance that those actually do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court.” - Rand Paul

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/24/watch-rand-paul-take-on-george-stephanopoulos-over-election-integrity-and-voter-fraud/

Georgia Republican Poll Watcher Discovered Recount Error Off By More Than 9,000 Votes For Biden
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/18/georgia-republican-poll-watcher-discovered-recount-error-off-by-more-than-9000-votes-for-biden/

This, is an excellent rundown of the quite unbelievable elements of this election:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/17/if-americans-can-no-longer-trust-our-elections-were-in-big-trouble/

Just because CNN doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

You can trust them. I don't.
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Backing the loosing horse again I see. I really should follow you and just do the opposite of everything you suggest or do in life, quickest way to success I can think of based on your track record.

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