Since everyone is going around complaining about cops or rioters (and rightfully so) I thought I'd take an opportunity to offer actual solutions. These are the solutions I would impose to solve the problem.

Most of the solution centers around just one important problem that is the root of the whole issue. Police are above the law. They tend to get leniency for crimes due to be officer, especially when it is the result of carrying out their "duty" and even when there is an attempt to hold them accountable they cover up each others mistakes in various ways that get them out of it. This is where all the solutions lie.. so here they are:

1) eliminate all police unions, I'd say any government job that makes or enforces policy of any kind should not be allowed to unionize. Unions generally use theie collective bargaining power to wipe police officers with bad records clean and thus allow them to avoid getting in trouble.

2) Ensure the law has just as strict a consequence for an officer as it does a citizen and that them being an officer doesnt give them any greater latitude in that regard. If anything their consequences when on duty should be stricter. If they shoot someone because of a mistake because they thought they had a gun when they didnt, murder, no exceptions, no different than a citizen.

3) any officer on the scene when #2 happens and a officer breaks the law is expected to immediately stop the incident if they can and at a minimum arrest the officer immediately. If any officer fails to arrest another officer they will be consider an accomplice and equally as guilty as if they carried out the offense themselves

4) retroactively apply the #2 and #3 to all officers currently on the force to serve as an example. Give a 2 week grace period so any officers who would fall under the category of #3 have a chance to arrest their fellow officers who have in the past commited a crime under #2. After two weeks any officers guilty of #2 or #3 will be arrested with no forgiveness. Resigning from their position will not grant them immunity.

5) Require body cams, ensure the body cams can not be turned off

6) Any officer intentionally hiding their body cam during an incident will immediately loose their job and be fined one year back pay. If there is evidence of wrong doing they will be tried and this action held against them as evidence.

7) officers are always required to be in pairs or more.

8) Reverse broken-glass policying policies from the top down. Have officers focus on real crime as a priority and deprioritize non-violent crimes.

I think the problem that city government is having is that cops are almost universally hated, most people don't want to be universally hated, so most people don't want to become cops.
Now, and I can see the planning meeting now... everything that you do which makes it harder to be a cop makes fewer people apply for the job, which for a police chief means either they have to pay more (i.e. the mayor has to raise the budget) or they have to accept lower quality applicants...

@cjd @freemo this is quite depressing. You'd probably need better pay to get better people but that's impossible politically.
@cjd @freemo on the other hand, just defunding official police and letting people for competing private polices might be nice...

@lain @freemo
They'll just make private cities with private police, which would probably be a step forward because city politics is hellacorrupt.



Not sure that would be much better.. nothing actually solved, and all the same problems would crop up. Just in the chaos as the rules are laid out shit would get ugly... I mean we can sorta see a mini version of that when CHAZ formed, they tried to do their own policing and kept police out.. and then the deaths started.


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@freemo @cjd @lain they just weren't rich enough to hire pros so all they had was bangers
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