Derek Chauvin (The murderer of ) has just officially been convicted of murder by the grand jury, finally justice!

@freemo would you call it justice had the jury declared him not guilty? Will you call it justice on the off chance an appeal finds a mistrial?
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@Feddylain Considering how overwhelmingly obvious it is that he was guilty, and caught red handed, then no, I would not say justice was carried out in that case. I would say, however, that the system obeyed its own rules for how a trial is to be carried out (that system doesnt always result in justice, though its the best we got).

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@freemo obvious? I don't know about that. I watched all the expert testimony and I have some reasonable doubts about prosecution witnesses. I doubt whether a significant amount of chauvins weight was on Floyd's neck. Whether Floyd's position and force applied would result in deaths in people who aren't suffering from the numerous medical and pharmelogical conditions specific to Floyd (and by extension, whether police are expected to take highly unlikely medical complications into account). I doubt whether there was malicious intent behind Chauvins actions.

Any of those things could result in a not guilty verdict.
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