@freemo My stepfather, he is a communist, and he believes—I'm probably oversimplifying this—that workers should be paid a fair share at their jobs and that they should be treated with respect.

He believes there is an owning class and a working class. The owning class makes money from what the working class does and seeks to oppress the working class unfairly so they do not get the full benefit from their work.

The owning class could not get the benefit of what the working class does without the working class.

Workers at McDonald's run the McDonald's but are only paid a small amount from the money that is made. They are treated as expendable and are fired at a moment's notice when it is convenient, regardless of whether it is deserved. This is immoral.

From the small amount I know of communism, it seeks to stop injustices from happening in the workplace by giving workers more say in how the business they work at is run. It stops corporate greed—which is destroying the world and creating unhappiness.

The picture doesn't reflect what I know of or .

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@bespectacled239 The big difference here is between what socialism intends to do and what it actually accomplishes. What you described I'd say, while incomplete, is fairly accurate for what communists claim their goals and outlook to be.

On the other hand this meme isnt about what communists/socialists intend, but rather what they get when they try to apply their principles, which doesnt resemble much what they intend.

@freemo I don't really have anything else to say.

It's interesting to me how opinions on communism range from "Communism seems sensible and I have experienced the problems it seeks to fix" to "Communism doesn't work. You all just want free stuff."

In most arguments, neither of the people arguing are entirely wrong. I find that interesting. There's usually a middle ground that's more accurate. ☺️

I'm off to bed. It's 12 AM.

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To me the issue isnt about what either side speculates. Communism has been tried countless times and each time everyone starves to death and demands an end to it.

We can argue what principles sound good all day but in the end i think the examples stand as their own proof

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