@matrix Its almost like living in a society that treats you unfairly, makes it harder to be financially successful, and causes you to be likely to be born into a life of poverty might possibly influence a persons perpencity towards crime.... who wulda thunk.

@freemo @matrix "living in a society that treats you unfairly"

If you're talking about black people, you're right, but not in the way you intended: Beyond nonstop Affirmative Action and racial quotas to ensure that blacks have to put in far less effort than any other group to get into a good college or get a good job, they're actually less likely than White people to be shot by the police while unarmed, when you control for just how much more violent crime they commit.

Being black in America is Easy Mode, it's just that many blacks are so dysfunctional that they still manage to screw up their lives despite society bending over backwards to accommodate them.


Life skills are generational. When you make people slaves and then try to reverse course on that the lack of education will be passed down generation after generation.

To claim that they systemically have it easier, which I'm not saying is true but even if we assume it is, doesnt really make your case at all. Having it "easy" isnt going to reset the centuries of oppression whose effects will continue to be passed down for some time.


@freemo @matrix Your argument is effectively unfalsifiable. We could be giving blacks preferential treatment for 500 years, and people like you would still be insisting that past Oppression is to blame for blacks being disproportionately stupid and violent, and that the answer is even more anti-racist Bullshit.

The better option is obviously accepting that some groups of people are just dumber and more violent than others, to end preferential treatment of the dysfunctional groups, and to no longer allow races that we know will be disproportionately dysfunctional to immigrate to the West. "Diversity" and Multiculturalism is already a disaster for the West, no reason to make the problem even worse.


The thing about an argument being unfalsifiable is that it in no way implies it is any less true, it just means it hard to prove it is true.

That said I wouldn't say its unfalsifiable, but it is admittedly much harder to prove true than most things.


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@freemo @matrix It's pretty damn obvious that no amount of evidence would convince you that the bad outcomes for blacks are due to factors other than Oppression, because you're not willing to even entertain the notion that blacks are on average just naturally less intelligent than White people and most other racial groups.
@ChristiJunior @freemo @matrix β™ͺ No escaping your genes, we regress to racial means, and adoption studies blow blank slate BS to smithereens β™«
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