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Which of the following logical fallacies do you find most frustrating to hear used?
@freemo
I went with ad baculum, because coercion isn't an argument. There are four lights.
@Parienve I find the more subtle forms of ad baculum to be the most insidious. Yea the whole "Your an idiot ill kill you" if you dont agree with someone makes it impossible to take them seriously. But thankfully its so absurd I dont even consider it here.
The worse form of it goes something like this:
"I support providing therapy for people with inappropriate sexual urges so they dont act on it."
them: "Oh so you are a pedophile sympathizer, I'm sure you are real popular with the ladies"
Basically implying that the whole of society will hate you for your viewpoint, as if how much you are liked somehow effects what the truth is.
@freemo
Agreed. I've seen such forms used to bully people out of what may have otherwise been good-faith discussions.
@Parienve It is sadly all too common. It is a particularly common tactic in extreme conservative and liberal circles where public opinion seems to be of high importance, as well as following witht he majority. Questioning the stance of either group, even as a member will get you a lot of ire.
There are amazing people in both "left" and "right".
@djatropine444 There certainly are... In the USA they make up a vanishingly small percentage, but they do exist in very small numbers on either side.
Thankfully outside of the USA such people are far more common.
@djatropine444 agreed entierly. The issue is in the USA that mentality is just far too common on both sides.
Example: Joe Cunningham Democrat South Carolina told the truth in the halls of Congress. " grandfather had always told him you could solve almost any problem by sitting down and having a beer together. " Pulls a beer from his coat pocket and cracked open a beer like pro.
@djatropine444 My family has a close history with politicians and have given a lot of money to them. Trump was over my family home for dinner and his kids spent the night back when he was fund raising. Biden also was over for dinner back when he was fund raising.
So yea I can atest these guys invest a lot of time, even with a single person, trying to convince them they arent slime balls so they can get a few 100k
Trump isn't rich and neither am I?
And in real life they are probably friends, yet on TV it's like professional wrestling. Like the documentary Perfect Enemies? : D
In that case I have a proposal.
Pay Per View for one month charge for C-Span.
WWE pay Congress&Senators to have a wrestling match(like in British Parliment) no holds bar table lattes and chairs and main event with Trump n Biden, Bernie and all of the presidentiial candidates.
That is my solution to the national debt. :D
@djatropine444 I have no idea if you are rich honestly. I'm also not sure if Trump is rich, I dont get to see his checkbook nor does my family. For a rich person he does an awful lot of begging for chump change though, so take that for what you will.
But yea your right that they are generally very different people behind the scenes than on TV. Its all for the cameras mostly.
I will 100% support that wrestling match.
@djatropine444 They cant, by virtue of their followers, agree on liking anything, no matter how much they want to. So I am certain at least one of them would absolutely hate it :)
In that case I want to attend a Trump rally while on a bag of mushrooms dressed as Bernie and sell autographs for a dollar. :D
I can verify that if you eat mushrooms & whippets and watch a Trump rally, his head expands and expands and expands.
In fact I would let Trump body slam me if he said to the crowd "It's Crazy Bernie" . I would let him body slam me.
@djatropine444 I wouldnt say they enjoy national ddebt exact. More like they couldnt give a flying fuck about national debt, or national anything. They have absolutely no interest in fixing problems. They care if they are elected, and if their party wins seats. Nothing more, nothing less.
@djatropine444 I agree, the issue isnt with the politicans, politicians and their behaviors is merely the symptom. The problem is with the american voter for sure.
The only thing I know about Joe, is: Rave Act,
the state of Delaware. The things come to mind when I think of Delaware.
Private Equity Firms
Mastercard
Clam Chowder
@djatropine444 wait till you find out the fact that the whole reason he got into politics was to put a stop to desegregation.
As for Bernie. I love his sword.
I'm attracted to his wife. If she invited me over for the weekend, she would be singing a Touch fo Grey by the Grateful Dead
If I was a bank robber I would want Bernie & his wife.
Bernie looks like the kind of person who is to much of a crook that he could rob a hundred banks in a hundred and get away with it. No lying , and no stuttering or excuses.
@djatropine444 Bernie will invite you over to diner to one of his four houses and when you arrive Bernie will go "So what did you bring for us to eat?"
@djatropine444 You should check out "The Bernie Man Festival". It is pretty much the same idea as the Burning Man Festival but instead of burning a giant effigy they burn a pile of money.
& Since Bernie never signed the RACE ACT,
I woudl say " let's have rave!"
@djatropine444 STOP, i am waiting for food to arrive. I am too hungry for this shit.
I add grits!
Time to open up a Waffle House in Vermont to boost property value.
It's like east side vs. west side beef.
I propose a mandate that both side hit a bong and not each other & have a beer.