@Jojothegoodperson Not right now! I'm in class too, and I still don't have time to do a podcast episode rn. But when I do get time, we should do an episode together
@Jojothegoodperson I gotta round up more people and see who else wants to be on the show too
@realcaseyrollins
I was planning to do an A and B convention, because I'm not good with lots of people lmao. Also, I don't want to talk to freemo because he's a bitch to me now.
@Jojothegoodperson What the heck did @freemo ever do to you?

I definitely want to have him on the podcast, but by himself, not with other guests at the same time

@icedquinn

I must admit, your ability to summarize half a day of drama down to a single sentance without leaving out a single detail of importance really is a god damn work of art.

@realcaseyrollins @Jojothegoodperson

@freemo @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins Respected Dr. Freemo, yesterday I asked you about Jojo's allegedly poor role models. You've yet to answer. If you do not wish to elaborate that is acceptable, but understand that i and others are still very curious about this situation. They (jojo) is still deactivated from nodes such as mine.

@colonelj

Sorry I took your reply as sarcasm, I guess it was either meant more as condescension than sarcasm, or maybe i misread.

I am also on the fence about listing them by name simply because his friend group and who he respects I think is obvious and so its an easy thing to judge for yourself without getting into a character assassination war.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins

@freemo @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins I understand. It comes as a great surprise to myself that you and they (jojo and friends) have a history is all besides that one event where you were accused of being some spammer (cowanon i think?) and with some unconvincing evidence at that.

@colonelj

P and jojo are best buds. I've had a history with both in one sense or another since FSE first arrived on the fediverse (FSE I was started not too long after QOTO as I recall). I used to be quite supportive of both but when one of FSE users literally started making death threats, and then once the person was blocked stated publicly he would make multiple accounts to circumvent the block the admin (P) was notified and he lost his shit because QOTO was considering defederating due to lack of moderator action.

QOTO doesnt defederate easily, rude or even racist users wont lead to defederation for example. Our only rule is that if an admin/moderator doesnt act on clear cases of users creating accounts that are used to circumvent bans then and only then do we defederate. So FSE was being debated for defederation on those grounds, and ever since then P went nuclear. His very fragile ego doesnt take criticism well and he will forever be vengeful if he is forced to loose control of a situation.

Anyway since then I stayed on good terms with jojo regardless until the most recent incident. The instance of P loosing his shit and thinking random people, including his own users, were me and blocking them was because I mentioned I had alts somewhere on the fediverse and found it funny how P went out of his way to unknowingly follow all my alts and reboost their posts unaware he was following me.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins

@freemo @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins hmm i see. i too am interested in becoming a part of the Qoto Elite. Once i get my phd you'll likely be the first to know

@colonelj

We do not require PhDs or any credentials to join QOTO. You simply need to be in a STEM field or studying/interested in STEM, even just as a hobby.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins

@freemo @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins hmm. i was of the understanding one must be vetted by you in some manner to join. if that isn't the case then i may be joining the Qoto Elite sooner than expected. I do meet your criteria, but I dislike the mastodon look and i feel the kind of posting, nothing offensive, i do would not be very welcome on qoto

@colonelj

The only vetting we do is to ask someone if they are in a STEM field or what area of STEM they study/engage in. The only people who get rejected are the people who say "none".

Many of our users are PhD's, some have no education and just work as programmers, yet others just love talking about STEM. No real restriction as long as you love and are interested in STEM.

As for the kind of posting you do if that is welcome. I do not know much about your content, I'd have to review it. You can read our rules if you are in doubt. If it is nothing offensive, and it isnt explicitly anti-STEM in its nature (the earth is flat, and all scientists are trying to spread a conspiracy that the moon is real) then you are probably ok.

In terms of social atmosphere, there is an expectation of respectful discourse to a point. but when people do disagree and get heated, which is rare, we just ask they mute eachother and move on.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins

@1iceloops123 @freemo @colonelj @realcaseyrollins my favorite was the time lancet actually was complicit in an actual conspiracy lol

they've since purged the offending gentleman
@freemo when lancet issued the letter than covid-19 absolutely came from bats, it was because daszak bullied the panel that it would be racist to suggest the lab made it. so they issued the letter, daszak was later found to have deep conflicts of interest and they later retracted it (which lead to facebook suddenly allowing people to post about lab leak theory again) and daszak was ejected from the covid origins panel.

they essentially sent the man to investigate himself for wrongdoing.

@realcaseyrollins @colonelj @1iceloops123
@icedquinn @freemo @colonelj @realcaseyrollins I still believe the lab theory but it's because the labs website was scrubed but I don't believe in the wet market part of it because they don't have bats in that area I was told

@1iceloops123

the dna evidence strongly suggests wet lab. It does not however suggest that it directly hoped from a bat but rather likely made at least 2 hops, the hop from bat happened before entering the wet market most likely at which point it made additional hops within the market since it had already generalized.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @colonelj

@1iceloops123

jojo hates trans people -> jojo hates jeff -> jeff did nothing wrong -> jojo has shitty role models -> will qoto let me join -> lancet lies -> covid bat origin is conspiracy -> covid was made in a lab

So we went from jojo hates trans people to china engineered COVID... how many more steps are we until this thread becomes about Hitler? looks like we are zigzagging all over the road on this one :)

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @colonelj

@1iceloops123

Sadly trans people invoke some of the nastier primal tribal instincts in people. It invokes a lot of hate even before they open their mouth. This is ultimately why i try to go out of my way to show my support for their choice, no one should be hated outright for a choice they make with their own body.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @colonelj

@freemo @1iceloops123 @realcaseyrollins @colonelj unless the choice is not to take certain drugs, then society deems it okay to hate them.

:blobcatgoogly:

@icedquinn

LOL I know right. This is why even as someone who is vaccinated I take a very strong position against vaccine mandates. No one has a right to tell you you have to put a drug into your body no matter how convincing an argument they may or may not make.

@realcaseyrollins @colonelj @1iceloops123

@freemo @icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @colonelj I think mandates should be illegal like with boosters the doctor told my mom she doesn't need one. As for me I am not sure if should either
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@1iceloops123

I agree it should be illegal for the government to mandate vaccines, or in fact to have access to your medical records at all.

@icedquinn @realcaseyrollins @colonelj

@freemo @1iceloops123 @realcaseyrollins @colonelj just put a bomb in your medical records

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