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To be fair thats not a scientific journal saying that and PHS doesnt conduct peer review. Thats a government health agency.

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@freemo @icedquinn
>it's only the raw data source
yeah we need a meta study where the real data can be buried under layers of P-hacking
@crunklord420 @freemo actually it would be nice if the data sheets had to be made available in some form :blobcateyes: i took data science classes and they talked about this being a real frustration.

@icedquinn

In scientific papers the source of the data is always cited. But you may need to go off and fet h it from a third party aometimes. You can also usually email the authors and get the raw data

@crunklord420

@freemo if by cited you mean they just say "we did this test and here's an aggregate of the results" then yes.

i've never been able to actually get the spreadsheets.

@crunklord420

@icedquinn
In the case of data aquired during the research of the paper the raw data is almost always availible on request. I jave never been denied the raw data even once when i inquired.
@crunklord420

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Well there are other sources for raw data, but yes i agree obscuring the data is a bad move.

That said there is no dpubt that conspiracy theorists were abusing data they didnt understand. The VARES data in the usa was misrepresented by most of the nutters countless times. Personally im ok with that since freedom of information means idiots will abuse it and thats a fine tradeoff to make. But i do understand the reaction. People were so dumb thry were actually vares was an indication of death counts and other complete nonsense

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn imagine calling other people conspiracy theorist while preventing them from viewing it. If anything doing this absolutely legitimizes all of those claims by conspiracy theorists.

Random anonymous people on 4chan are more trustworthy than the combined prestige of all the top universities in the west combined.

@crunklord420

I agree, blocking the data is unexcusable, and very counter to the intention of stopping conspiracy theorists, however absurd those conspiracy theorists happened to be.

@icedquinn

@freemo @crunklord420

> conspiracy theorists
> lancet literally had to write a letter that they were involved in a conspiracy to cover up covid's origins

:ablobcatpopcorn:
@crunklord420 @icedquinn @freemo How do you know they are Random if they are anonymous ?
@freemo because that's literally what those databases are for.

they were previously just as flawed but used as a truncheon to show how safe things are ("look the db is so smol") then it flipped and multiple regions show the opposite and now they're suddenly very unreliable and can't be cited for anything.

well if they are unreliable why do they exist? if they can't signal danger because they're unreliable then they can't signal safety--their existence is literally pointless.

@crunklord420

@icedquinn

Sort of, thry are **not** lists of everyone who died or had injury from the vaccine. They are a list of anyone who had any disease, regardless of if it is related to the vaccine, within a month or so of getting the vaccine. So on its own it provides no value as a list of people with adverse effects. Its purpose is only as a starting point tonfind case studies which, upon review, might lead to concerns.

Taking the list and going "look everyone on this list had an adverse reactionto the vaccine" is incorrect and idiotic. The vast majority of people on the list do not have reactions.
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@RedRocket69 @crunklord420 @freemo @icedquinn I made a babyraper stamp that I use on pedo avis sometimes, I haven’t used it in a while.
@RedRocket69 @bot @crunklord420 @freemo what the fuck even is all this shit

i just made a woozy shitpost about data hiding and now we're doing all this crap
@freemo @crunklord420 @icedquinn hurr muh conspiracy theorists are at it again huh. are johns hopkins researchers who foubd adverse events are 100x underreported conspiracy theorists too?

or was it harvard, i forget off hand. look up the lazarus report if you want. too tired to look at your garbage posts this morning you fat slob
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