#UFOI article is out now. I discuss why it’s better than #Fediblock #Fediblockmeta, my ideal solution for the #Fediblock, and how the #UFOI approaches these issues, with a nice word from @freemo addressing my most serious concern with the project.
I hope y’all find it interesting, if nothing else. Been wanting to release it for awhile now.
@realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @freemo #UFOI is meant to legitimize bad actors. That's why most of the #fediverse has blocked them. #fediblockmeta
If #fediblock #fediblockmeta adopted this structure, they wouldn't fall for #Nazi disinformation campaigns, nor could their activities be obfuscated or interfered with by third parties.
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@realcaseyrollins @ufoi @PKMNLives @casey-magazine
Its amazing, every single word you said is wrong. QoTO has been the leader in being a "good actor" for 5 years. We were one of the first servers to have a transparent and defined moderation process. We were also one of the earliest servers to explicitly include features and process to protect at risk groups like lgbtq and minorities. QOTO is the founding member and other members are held to the same standard
I challenge you to find even a sibgle example of a bad actor that has been reported and we refuse to act on, go ahead ill wait.
Also the idea that most of the fediverse has blocked the UFOI is a complete fantasy, in fact quite the opposite is true. UFOI currently has about 5% of the fediverse pledged to join. The vast majority of servers blocking UFOI are single user servers. The percentage of servers based on user count that block us is less than 0.05%, so there are about 100x to 500x more users in the UFOI than those that block us. By comparison QOTO remains one of the most federated servers on the internet.
Dont buy all the propaganda you hear.
I can’t imagine how tiring trying to be a hall monitor for a network of 5+ million users must be 🤭
@realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine It's definitely easier to deal with flat earthers. "Antifa" person gets called out for acting fash... "HARASSMENT..." An appeal was made by @freemo to discuss the problem as an adult. "MASS SPAMMING CRYBABY!!!" People trying to set up an equitable system to voluntarily resolve these kinds of problems... resulting in death threats, urges to suicide, violent snuff video towards people working on the project. "It legitimizes bad actors!" Right, @PKMNLives. I trust you to know what being a bad actor is all about and how #UFoI could legitimize them. It must really tire you do like any other flat earther with projecting.
Joepie lied about the details of those interaction. Fornexample as i said we never had to deal with childporn its true. But 5 minutes after that conversation we had an emergency meeting ofnour moderators and added an explicit rule to our ToS banning it. Previousky it woukd have been covered under iklegal acts.
The bit about racism is taken out of context. We DO and always have banned for racism on our server and clearly arent freeze speech. What we dont do is defederate from other servers, big difference. Claiming we are bad actors for having good strict moderation rules and simply for our federation policy is disengenuine at best.
As for the other two links.. i feel no need to defend callibg someone fascist who literally met the definition of facism. And even the link to tbat block list only lists us as federating freely, not a free speech server.
Funny how you have still completely failed and showing even a sibgle example of **any** of our users acting as a bad actor... still waiting on that.
@realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux
By the way, stux, lets get another beer so we can laugh at this asshat troll in person, just another day on the fedi). Look forward to seeing you again old friend, ill be back in the netherlands this year so lets make sure we dont miss eachother!
@PKMNLives @freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux
"[Qoto was] defederated for many reasons (some receipts attached) that had nothing to do with that users, and everything to do with their moderation policies or rather lack thereof."
I find this fascinating... "receipts" paraded about in fact show sensible moderation policy, rather than a "lack" of anything. Is it possible claiming "receipts" hoping for no discussion of them or actual reading of them takes place? Looks suspicious, like a bad actor move. How does #UFoI "legitimize" this?
The second he was corrected he threw up his hands and said he wont even discuss it. Then thinks my friend stux is gonna block me or something... Stux actually bothers to make informed decisions. It says a lot when someone refuses to even probe random screen shots or look past their own nose. This guy is either a troll or a tool, cant figure out which.
Not sure about this PKMNLives person so I can't make a judgement and I feel like doing so isn't worth my time. Maybe that person has been duped by certain lies and doesn't feel like digging for the sources? Or is just busy and doesn't have the time to respond to what we're saying? 🤷🏾♂️
At the end of the day I don't find these sorts of backs and forth worth my time. I just laugh and move on.
Yea you are correct on all of that. I do suspect he was just duped (thus why i call him a tool).. way I see it if you dont have the time to do the research, and you dont even bother to talk to the person accused enough to get the facts, you probably shouldnt be talking.
However if I look at his timeline all I see is an endless stream of him telling people to block this person or that server. If his "accuse first, do research later" mentality is any indication I can only imagine just how much harm he has done to the fediverse spreading lies and misinformation while encouraging people to block each other. How much needless name calling and fracturing has resulted because of this persons negligence? He is exactly the reason we need something like the UFOI, so no wonder he is so opposed to it.. HE is the type of bad actor we are trying to put in check, people who spread lies out of laziness and ignorance.
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @PKMNLives @stux @casey-magazine "Bad Actor" is as "Bad Actor" does.
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux I like the part where @PKMNLives plays the role of a "bad actor" by definition, decries how #UFoI "legitimizes" bad actors, and has no sense of shame or irony that he doesn't need #UFoI to "legitimize" his behavior. Nice it of work, that.
@PKMNLives @freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux
Just as the people in the discussions you've linked, you're projecting and conflating criticism of a structure with your personal opinions about certain perspectives.
Instances aren't users. They need to adhere to transparent processes that can be challenged and reversed - in particular the generic ones and even more so the federation.
@PKMNLives @freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux
Communities or organizations can still choose to block another group because of their interpretation of the other group's attitude, but expressing said judgement in the public sphere without justified evidence is considered libel.
The judgement behind those posted links is clear evidence of such bias. Whereas Quto/UfoI treat de-federation as a last resort, others see it as another block button, while the discussion
@PKMNLives @freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux
the nuance in-between is neglected.
As a global public space you are guaranteed to expect Reddit-level of drama. It is therefore vital the fediverse is prepared to handle these issues in a transparent and objective manner based on detached standards even foreign cultures can be measured by.
In that respect, UfoI fails to properly address dis-/misinformation which is a major vector of communal degradation.
You should appreciate what you have and others don't.
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine @stux
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @casey-magazine Your server admits to having freeze peach moderation. Too fucking tired to deal with this. Domain blocking and asking @stux to defed UFOI for obvious bullshit like this.
https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/109433103633543373
https://climatejustice.social/@PaulaToThePeople/109444008217463602
https://joinfediverse.wiki/FediBlock#Controversial_instances