Holy hell the toxicity is on another level.. apparently politely asking someone what law they are talking about is the same as sealioning now... cant even make this idiocy up... two days ive been trying to get information and learn about their concerns and for even bothering to try to understand their concerns (with no opposition of any kind) makes me the bad guy.... do these people not realize that this level of toxicity is putting their communities at risk and not helping?

@freemo they don't care about that kind of community risk, though: they *want* an idpol grievance echo chamber, not a place to critically examine their positions to make them stronger. Comfortable patting each other on the back, not any kind of intellectual growth.

In this case, there's a race to describe Florida and Texas in the most hyperbolic nonsensical language possible. You get brownie points and encouragement from the crowd if you do that. Questioning it in any way is spoiling the fun.

@ech @freemo is this incorrect? https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/06/texas-legislature-lgbtq-bills/

@aardvark @freemo I have no reason to doubt the facts reported in this article. (I have not independently verified them.) Why do you ask?

@ech @freemo if the article is accurate, there is no need to use hyperbolic language (as you claimed) to characterize Texas as taking objectively hostile actions against vulnerable groups of humans.

@aardvark

You are right there is no need, and yet, here we are, with people doing just that... at least in the case of florida where the reality is quite abysmal but the language used to describe it is grossly hyperbolic to the point of obscuring the ability to know what one is even talking about, and to the point of being attacked in this toxic bullshit of a thread simply for asking what is being referenced.

So yea, your right there is no need, thats the whole damn point of the objections, there is no need and yet its what is being done anyway.

@ech

@freemo @ech now you’re an expert in the language people are using to describe the fear-mongeribg legislation which is actively endangering the lives of numerous Floridians?

@aardvark

No, as Ive stated I dont really care so much about the hyperbolic language other than its self-defeating nature.. The toxicity around "hey that thing you said isnt very descriptive, can you point me to the law your referncing" is far far more the problem than any initial choice of language. If you cant even query about what is meant when someone uses language so hyperbolic as to be non-descript then you are fully within self-defeating territory with no hope of improving the very situation you are concerned about.

@ech

@freemo @ech I don’t see that you’ve engaged in any discussion on the three articles I googled for you. You have turned this whole thing into a “woe is me, you people are mean” thing while completely blowing past the issue presented by the OP. Why is that?