@kctipton well much like the far-right it is hard to distinguish which statements originate from the russians/china themselves. The only clue we have is the friendliness of the far-right/left, and the general consistency in talking points, often expressed in ways that are self-defeating or meant to be divisive.

@freemo @kctipton What "far left"? Whatever there is of it is too small and powerless to be worth the bother for either country. It is the far right that has power far beyond its numbers, and there is plenty of evidence of Russian support for right-wing fascist movements all over the world.

@andytiedye

depends on the country you are talking about. In the USA a huge portion of the left is "far-left" and radicalized in all sorts of ways (just as the USA has a huge far-right problem)... Thankfully in much (not all) of the rest of the world you'd be right, there isnt much of a far-left or far-right in say, the Netherlands. The prevelance of the far-left seems limited to the USA, but for anyone not on the extremes of the spectrum they are a very obvious and pervasive group for sure.

In fact the USA is so polarized they tend to exist on the extremes of almost any issue, even non-political ones.

@kctipton

@freemo @kctipton I'm in California and I'm not seeing radicalized far-left anything.

What is this "far left" of which you speak?

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@andytiedye

If you are unable to even see the existance of the far-left, much like people on the far-right, its a strong indicator you may be on the far-left.

That said I dont know you, or your opinions. so it is only suggestive at best. I'd need to know more about your opinions to even speculate why you are blind to such an overwhelmingly obvious segment of the populace. So I cant really say why you cant see it when its right in front of your face.

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@andytiedye

Yes thats intentional. For anyone ont he far-left they would have responded in a similar sense as you have, and would be a quite fruitless conversation if I tried... now im not saying you are on the far-left either, but i generally calculate the likelyhood a conversation will have value and the odds seem low here is all, though maybe im wrong and you are quite good at not being biased and would in fact have had a good conversation, who knows, either way that wasnt the bet I was willing to make.

I mean really, if a right wing person told you they didnt think extremism existed in any reasonable numbers on the right, would you think that person stood any chance of having a productive conversation to the contrary?

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