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So i spent a few hours guaranteeing 20 instances, and adding about 25 or 30 endorsements/censors/hesitations.

I love the idea and I think it has a LOT of potential.

Regardless I want to list it all here so the effected instances can be aware and if they wish respond/react. You can read my reason for endorsement of any of the below servers in the links provided.

I suppose this can also double as my !

Also please consider if you are an admin signing up and endorsing these and other instances as well.

**Endorsed / Garunteed**

@mdbraber - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@louis@emacs.ch - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@fosstodon - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@adamdavidson , @tprice504 , @e_urq , @siw - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@admin - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@trumpet - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@koyu - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@FrankSonntag - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@smitty - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@dansup@pixelfed.social , @dansup@mastodon.social - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@omnipotens - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@nicdex - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@M0YNG - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@cgseife - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@quokka - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@trinsec - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@noelle - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@jerry - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@thor - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@aras - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@SolSoCoG - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@Vivaldi - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@stux@masto.ai - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@wild1145 - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@stux@mstdn.social - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

@mwadmin - gui.fediseer.com/instances/det

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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱  
So I found this cool new tool that looks like a very new take on the idea of a blocklist, not really sure I can even call it a block list. https://...

@freemo
> Regardless I want to list it all here so the effected instances can be aware

But you do realize that every admin of the instances you guarantee gets a DM fromm fediser?

@Tealk Oh they do... no I didnt realize that.

When I got guaranteed and endorsed twice I did not receive any DM. I just checked now. If I had known that I wouldnt have tagged them :( Are you sure?

@freemo
Yes I am sure. There is an exception if you have set the guarantee as not visible.

@Tealk I just endorsed you now too by the way. Thanks for the help!

@Tealk

Ahh that explains it.. botsinspace has me blocked.. (it was kinda messed up they blocked me then lied to me when i was trying to debug me and told me I wasnt... wasted most of a day only to find out later I was).

@freemo
Bring this up in the support channels, maybe they can change the channel instance. It should be an instance that does not block anyone.

@Tealk thanks ill try to find the support channel and ask.

@Tealk One thing though.. I think you only get the messages if you have claimed the instance... Since all these instances werent claimed and I just garunteed them anyway, I dont think they would have gotten notified. The bot wouldnt know how to reach them.

@freemo @Tealk Thank for giving us a nudge.

I have claimed ailbhean.co-shaoghal.net - would one of you like to give me a guarantee, so that I can start guaranteeing others?

Thanks!

@gunchleoc

I JUST LAID DOWN TO BED. IF YOU DONT FIND ONE HIT ME UP IN A FEW HOURS, ILL HELP

@Tealk

@gunchleoc
You can also make a request here and a known entity can then guarantee for you
gui.fediseer.com/solicitations

Since there are only 20 guarantees available per instance, I only use this for instances I know.
@freemo

@Tealk @freemo Thanks, I've done that.

I'll check if an instance already has a guarantee before I give it, to get as many on there as possible.

@gunchleoc
A guarantee can only be issued once anyway, you don't need to check that
@freemo

@sdgathman @freemo @Tealk It's an effort to come up with better safety tooling than simple shared blocklists which carry the danger of overblocking.

@gunchleoc

I think its a good approach to that too.. might need a little tweaking, but the idea of a chain of trust makes a lot of sense if it is applies correctly.

@sdgathman @Tealk

@omnipotens

It was my pleasuure and well earned...

I suggest you consider paying it forward, feel no obligation to endorse us but if you feel there are instances worthy of endorsement or garuntees I humbly suggest you add them.

Either way, happy to help

@mdbraber @louis@emacs.ch @fosstodon @adamdavidson @tprice504 @e_urq @siw @admin @trumpet @koyu @FrankSonntag @smitty @dansup@pixelfed.social @dansup@mastodon.social @nicdex @M0YNG @cgseife @quokka @trinsec @noelle @jerry @thor @aras @SolSoCoG @Vivaldi @stux@masto.ai @wild1145 @stux@mstdn.social @mwadmin

@omnipotens

Wonderful.. though as I think only a single moderator can have access, not sure, and it may be limited to admins (that what it says but i got a mod account on)...

Anyway good luck and if there is anything I can do to help please feel free to reach out to me.

@mdbraber @louis@emacs.ch @fosstodon @adamdavidson @tprice504 @e_urq @siw @admin @trumpet @koyu @FrankSonntag @smitty @dansup@pixelfed.social @dansup@mastodon.social @nicdex @M0YNG @cgseife @quokka @trinsec @noelle @jerry @thor @aras @SolSoCoG @Vivaldi @stux@masto.ai @wild1145 @stux@mstdn.social @mwadmin

@omnipotens

Happy to help.

Keep in mind you can censor and hesitate on non-garunteed instances. But to endorse either you or someone who has been garunteed needs to garuntee them first.

The list of servers that are garunteed is confusingly called the "white list".

Now that I garunteed you you can garuntee up to 20 other instances, but you can endorse any number of instances.

You cant garuntee a server that is already garunteed, it will give a warning and **not** consume one of your 20 slots. You can also revoke a garuntee and free up one of your 20 slots. Revoking a garuntee will however invalidate everything in the trust tree below you if the orphaned instance doesnt find a new guarantee (or you regaruntee) within 24 hours.

I think thats more or less the gist of it. Keep in mind a guarantee only means "this server isnt predominately spam", it isnt an indication of trust itself beyond that.

@mdbraber @louis@emacs.ch @fosstodon @adamdavidson @tprice504 @e_urq @siw @admin @trumpet @koyu @FrankSonntag @smitty @dansup@pixelfed.social @dansup@mastodon.social @nicdex @M0YNG @cgseife @quokka @trinsec @noelle @jerry @thor @aras @SolSoCoG @Vivaldi @stux@masto.ai @wild1145 @stux@mstdn.social @mwadmin

@skobkin I'd be more than happy to endorse your instance.. but i used up all my garuntees. So i either need to drop someone or we need to get you garunteed so I can endorse you

@freemo
NP 😄
I'm sure someone will do that 🤷‍♂️

@freemo
If someone has a spare vote for us (lor.sh) and believe that we're worthy of it, we'll be grateful 🙂

@skobkin

Since you untagged everyone no one will see it.

Also keep in mind garuntees only are an indication an instance is not mostly spam/fake accounts. Endorsements are more praise worthy.... So ideally it should be a light barrier to entry to get a garuntee.

Of course people need to be tagged to hear your ask :)

@freemo
I understand, but I don't want to bother people to get it.
If someone will see that and vote for us it'll be nice. If don't, we'll probably get it later 👌

@skobkin Thats fair, and considerate... I dont usually worry about it cause people can mute the convo if they want.

@skobkin If you have any trouble finding someone in the next day let me know, I will reach out to some of my closer contacts I garunteed and see if they are willing.

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